Might have been covered before -but -

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I am confused, and if this was covered before in some kinda of tread , forgive me for bringing it up ,

Akali - is a seriously mobile champ, she can leap , dive dip dodge duck and do massive burst damage.. and has TRUE stealth, like even turrets do not see it..

Shaco - has 1 movement ability which is also his stealth - - and 50% of his abilities are countered by a 300 gold item. His Q - and his W , which are really his means for getting up on someone as he is not a ranged guy. I love the clown, but -

Why? - I mean even Evelynn has a spam-able attack that can go behind her for escapes. - Shaco can drop a box, but it takes a second or two to actually trigger, and most of the time if they have item 2047 your screwed.

I mean as a melee champ, shaco has to really get in there to be effective.. and backstab is great, but that means you need to get BEHIND them - which requires stealth. and if they paid 300 gold they are 80% immune to him unless they for some reason walk into a box rather then just killing it..

I mean i get that True Stealth is a pain, but I think of all the "stealth" champs, Shaco and Evelynn would have been first on the list to receive it - why they gave it to a champ that can bounce around, anyway - and 90% of the time escape with her normal "shroud" - is beyond me.

Again maybe it was covered, if so sorry - please direct me to the place where its explained. Thank you

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Witchy Wench1 votes

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I am confused, and if this was covered before in some kinda of tread , forgive me for bringing it up ,

Akali - is a seriously mobile champ, she can leap , dive dip dodge duck and do massive burst damage.. and has TRUE stealth, like even turrets do not see it..

Shaco - has 1 movement ability which is also his stealth - - and 50% of his abilities are countered by a 300 gold item. His Q - and his W , which are really his means for getting up on someone as he is not a ranged guy. I love the clown, but -

Why? - I mean even Evelynn has a spam-able attack that can go behind her for escapes. - Shaco can drop a box, but it takes a second or two to actually trigger, and most of the time if they have item 2047 your screwed.

I mean as a melee champ, shaco has to really get in there to be effective.. and backstab is great, but that means you need to get BEHIND them - which requires stealth. and if they paid 300 gold they are 80% immune to him unless they for some reason walk into a box rather then just killing it..

I mean i get that True Stealth is a pain, but I think of all the "stealth" champs, Shaco and Evelynn would have been first on the list to receive it - why they gave it to a champ that can bounce around, anyway - and 90% of the time escape with her normal "shroud" - is beyond me.

Again maybe it was covered, if so sorry - please direct me to the place where its explained. Thank you

You're not seriously complaining about Shaco are you?

Goju1 votes

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You're not seriously complaining about Shaco are you?

Uh. . no , actually I am saying that Shaco SHOULD have had the "True Stealth" not Akali.. he is a high requirement champ to start with , his boxes dont have a great AP ratio , his dagger is a up close range attack and his passive only works if your behind your enemy .. Compare that to 99% of the passives in the game and its crap

Add to that he has a 80% counter kit with a 300 gold item. And Shaco is kinda a "why take him" champ. Oh if your GREAT with him you can do stuff 25% of the time, but the other 75% your a mobile vision ward at best.

Akali - should never have been given True Stealth to start with. The reword to her kit was more then enough, using the old shroud ability. There as no reason save to give her even more of a ability to ignore the towers.

Given that Towers do JACK in damage to start with - but actually helped if she dove you , now she can dive under.. use her stealth.. kill you and waltz right out with a emote and the tower goes.."huh?"

I think if any champ should have True Stealth, aka stealth that is not seen by a 300 gold item, it should BE Shaco - since he has to get pretty close to use any ability - even his box is basically the same range as his dagger throw.

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