Does anyone other than Amumu build Frozen Heart anymore?

iPooUnicorns··1 votes·1,574 views

I almost never see Frozen Heart built by anyone other than Amumu, and very seldomly Ryze. 9 times out of 10, it is outclassed by the other component upgrades.


Defense-wise, item 3082 upgrades offer far more than Frozen Heart:

  • item 3143 - Outclasses Frozen Heart with virtually the same passive, while also offering better defensive stats through crit damage reduction and health.
  • item 3075 - Better defense stats aside from armor, and also grants Grevious Wounds.

Utility-wise, item 3024 upgrades offer more useful utility:

  • item 3025 - Gives much more sticking potential, has the same CDR and mana, and offers a slight damage increase.
  • item 3800 - Has one of the best engage actives in the game, as well as health, while having a bit less CDR.

All in all, Frozen Heart probably needs to offer more than just raw stats and a readily available attack speed reduction passive.

Possible changes:

  • Unique Active: For the next X seconds, enemy champions within X range are slowed by 30% (15% when used by ranged champions). 90 second cooldown.

  • Unique Active/Toggle: Expend X mana per second to slow enemy champions within X range by 30% (15% when used by ranged champions).

  • Unique Active: For the next X seconds, 20% of all physical/auto attack damage is dealt to your mana instead. 60 second cooldown.

13 Comments

AlienPrimate2 votes

I build it on Trundle Taric Nasus Maokai Nautilus Olaf Warwick

It is a situational item. I get it when the enemy has 3 or more auto attackers on any of the champions I listed.

iPooUnicorns1 votes

Other than Taric, I would opt for either Randuins or Thornmail if the enemy team has a lot of auto attackers, as they give much better survivability.

For the AD oriented of these champions in this particular situation, I would build something consisting of: item 1401 if jungling item 3748 / item 3078 / item 3025 to not hit like a wet noodle, and if you really need to get tankier quickly, you can sit on item 3057 / item 3077 until you have a full tank item. item 3143 / item 3075 as the primary anti auto attack item item 3800 to engage better.

For Maokai and Nautilus it would look like: item 3068 / item 1401 item 3065 for Maokai, item 3194 on Nautilus if you really need some MR, otherwise build it later. item 3143 / item 3075 as your primary anti autoattack item item 3800 for better engages.

More often than not, the game is over by the time you have these items, but if it is still going, then item 3110 isn't a bad choice, but more likely than not you'll need a item 3065 or item 3194 so you don't get destroyed by magic damage.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Cooldown reduction is op on all of the champions I listed. That is the biggest reason I build FH on them.

C9 Squeeky 2 votes

Nasus

iPooUnicorns1 votes

As a champion with no real gapclose, item 3800 does so much more for him, and if you need more armor against an auto attacker, item 3143 /item 3075 offer a lot more survivability.

Sarjin281 votes

So many things wrong with this statement. Nasus W is a great way to close a gap fast, and passive from item 3078 also helps with the gap closing. Now item 3800 is good, but its essentially 400 hp and 30 armor vs 90 armor. Both do fine on nasus, but both very situational. HOWEVER Nasus W REDUCES attack speed... on top of item 3110 so ANY attack speed based champion is shut down. Now this big thing is the CDR. Mana works for nasus on both but the CDR is a big difference. If you build him right rune wise, you should be overscaling hard in CDR and get that bonus AD difference. I can't imagine many saying "Health and chase ability > landing more Q's , spamming W, and get scaling AD on Nasus "... just sayin

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

My ex girlfriend did

ViciousSummoner1 votes

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

ViciousSummoner2 votes

You don't go FH unless the enemy team has at least 3 aa heavy champs. If you're buying it to counter ADC you're better off with Randuim's because of the HP and crit dmg redu.

Hammermancer1 votes

Malphite

iPooUnicorns2 votes

Malphite gets much more use out of Iceborn Gauntlet than Frozen Heart.

Baron Barian1 votes

If there's a match-up where you want it on Amumu, then there's a match-up where you would want it on any tank.

UoL NicknameMy1 votes

What many people do not know is, Frozen Heart's AS slow actually increases Liandry's Torment damage. For that, it can be abused quite nicely.

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