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Certain champions vs Syndra, there isn't much room for counter play.

Nhifu··2 votes·991 views

There have been so many times where I've seen my jungler, die to Syndra, or they themselves get killed by one.

To counter a syndra, you have to side step the stun, and dodge her Q's, then survive the ultimate.

Her ultimate is NOT a channel, so she can run away / flash etc etc.

This means to counter a Syndra, you have to chase her. But she is a champion that doesn't stop moving when she casts. Right click away, press q. Want to punish them more? W click. Stun? E (huge range)

Let's talk about a few match ups.

Orianna vs Syndra -> Your ball does not outrange Syndra's Q Ziggs vs Syndra -> low base health, slow escape --> all syndra has to do is land 2 Q's, 1 w, ult ignite auto attack = you die. Ziggs is immobile, prime target for syndra stuns later on.

If there were to be a patch for Syndra, without completely breaking her, it would have to be a passive rework. She has a superb early / mid game, why would the late game be stronger?

Or

Q radius is too forgiving, this skill shot takes no skill. Her kit mostly uses Q W to wave clear, no one should be last hitting with dark sphere anyways.

(Log into League of legends, click on Syndra and play the video for "Scatter the weak")

11 Comments

PoisonedPeace4 votes

Q - Pretty much instant AoE. Bigger area than visuals lead W - Less instant but still hard to miss. Decent slow. Again, bigger area than visuals lead E - Stun that AGAIN has a hitbox twice the size of the visuals R - Pretty decent balanced skill

All the BS about clarity since the Rift VU, and you would think they would work on some champ clarity.

12tales1 votes

Yeah. I'm not convinced that Syndra needs to be nerfed, but it would be nice if she got the Karthus Q treatment. Her E in particular is really frustrating to play against.

CerealBoxOfDoom4 votes

There have been so many times where I've seen my jungler, die to Syndra, or they themselves get killed by one.

wut?

sounds like their fault either way

To counter a syndra, you have to side step the stun, and dodge her Q's, then survive the ultimate.

not true, if you can go man-mode through all that you can kill her

This means to counter a Syndra, you have to chase her. But she is a champion that doesn't stop moving when she casts.

neither do you, better nerf irelia

Orianna vs Syndra -> Your ball does not outrange Syndra's Q

max shield first, abuse passive

Ziggs vs Syndra -> low base health, slow escape --> all syndra has to do is land 2 Q's, 1 w, ult ignite auto attack = you die.

build some defense and mana, prepare to roam,, outpush her like mad. you will struggle a bit midgame cuz lower than normal damage. Deal with it

She has a superb early / mid game

theres nothing special about her early midgame, she's just another super aggressive spam mage just like orianna and ziggs. A lot of people play these three champs winning their lane and losing the game because they don't even realize what kind of gimmick they are abusing and becoming too dependent on because people who don't think about it and what the solution means. Yes, against some champs you will have to build defense on a dps champ, this is the point of certain opposing picks and why some champs avoid going mid.

Q radius is too forgiving, this skill shot takes no skill.

stand next to your ranged minions and rethink this.

(Log into League of legends, click on Syndra and play the video for "Scatter the weak")

scattering the weak = making yourself weak to ganks hue

Rozencrantze1 votes

This is perfect.

SmokingPuffin3 votes

There is only one immobile mid lane mage that's viable.

When we say that we want that fixed, we don't mean nerf Syndra out of viability.

Raptamei2 votes

Syndra needs a nerf because the community thinks she does. That's how it always worked.

Lord OwlBear2 votes

Syndra is a lane bully sure, but that is her niche. She fights one target really well and provides some good CC to team fights. Honestly most times I find it comes down to a skill matchup with anyone that plays vs a syndra. There is counterplay you just need to learn the windows, and the best way to do that is to play as her. If your biggest worry is her stun learn to time the CD and bait it out for example. Point being is there are ways around everything but you just need to learn to be flexible with your playstyle and overcome.

Poon Slayher1 votes

and yet youre unranked.

I am Diamond 1 and even I know that Syndra is stupidly overpowered

Lord OwlBear2 votes

Man the salt is real, cant someone just give a pep talk without the hate. Just because im unranked doesn't mean I lack understanding of the game. I often play against gold to diamond players and what I lack in individual skill I make up for in being knowledgeable. My credentials out of the way I never said she wasn't a strong lane opponent, however knowing how to handle her can keep her low and win you the game. Just because a champ is strong doesn't mean that there are not weaknesses that can be exploited. A 49.29% win rate is proof enough of that. I mean honestly to come on here sounding like you do as "diamond 1". Put up more of an argument then "oh yet you're unranked", the person who started this forum did at least that to vent about the fact that they found it hard to play vs a syndra. So I was trying to offer a counter argument? A least you could do is provide intelligent conversation to the topic rather then insults.

Salidfingers2 votes

I get a lot of smack for this,

I take annie vs syndra. All i do is farm farm farm and run around avoiding her pokes then try and find advantage to nuke her.

Example when i clear lane i act like i went bot and she follows through the fog and i nuke her. I have best success with this strat on purple side.

bad manner kid1 votes

They should reduce hitbox of her orbs by 20%, add a 0.25 sec cast animation for ultimate so she can't keep running with Q/Ignite/E if she screwed it up.

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