Vayne will be the best Assassin in the game after the next patch

Akali is SO HOT·Nov 8, 2016·31 votes·1,484 views

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MunchCrunchLunchNov 8, 201614 votes

late game. one Q equal one death

one punch man. or i guess one q lady

GULAG 4 UNov 8, 20161 votes

Nice cringe

GULAG 4 UNov 8, 20164 votes

She doesn't have the mobility of neither talon, zed, kha'zix though? You need to hit something to reset the CD of her Q

JedenVojakNov 8, 20163 votes

I'm glad someone has actually acknowledged that Vayne is an assassin and not just an ADC. She's basically a ranged master yi. But yes, making assassins less fun isn't a good way to update them.

hsumis1oveNov 8, 20162 votes

dunno about duskblade tho. It seems to be kinda useless on her unless you wait for the full stealth timer on her r+q. Besides, it doesn't do much damage.

Handy Sandy Nov 8, 20161 votes

Diana is still a champion

CerealBoxOfDoomNov 8, 20161 votes

why is that

LostFr0stNov 8, 20165 votes

She'll have actual invis with little actual counterplay. If you're a targeting-focussed champ you'll literally be unable to fight her if she's in ult.

xCALYPTOxNov 8, 20162 votes

LOL little counter play... Let me help you out. Any AOE damage still hits her. Your support should have a sweeper, still shows her location. And have someone one your team with a frozen heart. Let me give you the most perfect example ever. Malphite, with frozen heart. Support sweeps the area when she ults, malphite ults right on her. Presses E. Vayne is no longer a problem.

LostFr0stNov 8, 20163 votes

The sweeper is a delayed red blob. That's not even where she is right now.

Yeah lemme just aoe that vayne Fiora Irelia Kayle Kled MasterYi Trundle Warwick to varying degrees of situational. I'm on it coach.

xCALYPTOxNov 8, 20161 votes

Why pick any of those champions in a DRAFT if they have a Vayne. If Vayne was not THE last pick you should have someone on your team who has an advantage against her

*Even a support. Grab morgana and when she aa after tumble you exhaust and ult

LostFr0stNov 8, 20164 votes

Maybe those are your best champs? Maybe your team needs them for the comp to work better? There's a lot of reasons really.

People shouldn't need to pick a certain champ to fight her, that's been a core of league forever, it's called counterplay (not counterchamp) for a reason and it's lacking a bit on her post-stealth update imho.

But nevermind that, what do people do in blind pick, once they remove draft? Can't always assume a Vayne will be there and pick "just in case." Don't even say "not removed in NA" it's just "not removed in NA yet" from the sounds of it.

MishaXNov 10, 20161 votes

A good vayne won't yolo with ulti when there is a Malphite in the ennemy team... and a Malphite can't afford the time to wait Vayne ult forever.

CerealBoxOfDoomNov 8, 20161 votes

isn't her ult also getting shredded though?

LostFr0stNov 8, 20165 votes

How? I'm more than sure it's completely unchanged. Still gets ~BF for pressing R, stealth duration after tumble unchanged. MS boost unchanged (still 3x passive).

ChaddyFantomeNov 9, 20161 votes

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She'll have actual invis with little actual counterplay. If you're a targeting-focussed champ you'll literally be unable to fight her if she's in ult.

as a Lulu and Talon main, if you aren't waiting to hit her in between Q's to CC her, you are doing it wrong.

LostFr0stNov 9, 20161 votes

You physically can't even try to hit her at any other time now, she decides when and where those pockets in the fight are and you better be ready.
That's the problem and I'm hoping they actually balance her accordingly.

ChaddyFantomeNov 9, 20161 votes

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You physically can't even try to hit her at any other time now, she decides when and where those pockets in the fight are and you better be ready.
That's the problem and I'm hoping they actually balance her accordingly.

So she is like any other champion with invisibility?

Legit just use any reveal on her, attack the AoE in her general direction to reveal her location for a moment. The vayne fear mongering is hysterical

LostFr0stNov 10, 20161 votes

I experienced the new Vayne situation before live.
We shall see if it's the same without the Pbe snowballing. I have my doubts that it will be different.

TalisidNov 8, 20161 votes

Well I mean she WAS designed to be an ADC/Assassin hybrid, so mission accomplished I guess?

Maybe she'll end up overpowered, she's already a bit broken IMO, but being an assassin is not outside of the things that Vayne is supposed to do.

LordGeovanniNov 8, 20161 votes

if that is true riot needs to look at their design strategies and hopefully realize something is wrong

NielarkenNov 9, 20161 votes

she was meant to be an anti tank adc because of her constant true dmg and lack needing much peel. Problem is she shreds tanks and everything else.

PermabannedGarenNov 8, 20161 votes

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So if you turn out to be wrong and one or two of the assassins turn out to be overpowered and Vayne turns out to be merely pretty good (like she is now) are you going to publicly eat your words?

Because if it turns out that you're wrong this will have been at least the second time you made an idiotic statement that wasn't true about the upcoming patch, but you weren't man enough to admit it then.

Akali is SO HOTNov 8, 20161 votes

what does that even mean lol

TheHappyReaperzNov 8, 20161 votes

Aren't targeted abilities something Riot is trying to phase out?

a special oneNov 9, 20161 votes

Oh god this shit triggers me m9

RyuyahNov 9, 20161 votes

dont forget Annie

hhaavviikkNov 9, 20161 votes

nah it'll be jarvan who will kill you in less then a second or diana who'll kill you in less then a second

SaiannaNov 9, 20161 votes

It's totally fine, because Vayne is ADC.

~Rito

ImmahnoobNov 9, 20161 votes

I'm sure most of the people in this thread can actually play Vayne AND win like they claim everyone else will against them.

Good luck.

TempesttwoNov 9, 20161 votes

Thank god, Vayne was so weak XD. (Sarcasm dont hurt me)

The Space CowboyNov 9, 20161 votes

Plus item 3153 is going back to 8% to help her early game. Edit: I still suck at Vayne, so maybe there is hope that scrubs will play her and feed like I do. That being said, got help us when a Vayne main gets fed.