Sated devourer Vayne procs her silver bolts every 2 autos
Balanced :^)
Balanced :^)
Good luck trying to get 30 stacks with it in lane.
Jungle Vayne baby.
If enemy junglers..hell even the entire enemy is letting Vayne jungle without any invades...then they deserved what is going to happen to them.
there's plenty of junglers weak to invades, vayne actually has some good tools to deal with it.
I would disagree with you on that.
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Jungle Vayne baby.
Squishy weak early-game carry, in the jungle with no support to save her?
Yummy
vayne 1v1 shaco easy specially in the jungle, smite box condemn into wall and continue to auto and don't let shaco getting backstab proc.
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vayne 1v1 shaco easy specially in the jungle, smite box condemn into wall and continue to auto and don't let shaco getting backstab proc.
You need to use your condemn on cooldown at camps in the jungle early on.
Not really, all you need is to have condemn for the red and blue buff. All the other camps are easy to camp. And vayne isnt as weak as you think in the jungle. She's got descent camp clear and more experienced vayne players (the good ones) none of the things people bote here will faze her.
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Jungle Vayne baby.
Prepare to get destroyed by the enemy jungler. Riot's plan all along. Attract Vayne players into the jungle to bring back AD Assassin junglers.
Good luck trying to get 30 stacks with it in lane.
There's a little thing called the jungle. And yes, there are jungle Vaynes even as we speak. This will only make it worse and more common.
If a Vayne is jungling, only an idiot would just let them free farm.
Even I, a more defensive jungler, would invade Vayne's jungle to ensure she wouldn't hit 30 stacks. And I would use wards to make sure her team would never be around. Nobody is going to help the Vayne jungle (junglers hardly get help when invaded unless a free kill is present), they'll be too focused on the actual adc.
A Vayne with sated devourer would be terrifying, granted, but the jungle hits hard especially against adc's with the reset mechanic and lack of defensive steroids. If a Vayne can seriously get 30 stacks because the enemy didn't bother to invade once, I can't really feel sorry for them.
But we'll see. If Jungle Vayne actually became fotm for this, we'd see some nerfs, but I'm doubting it'll be a huge issue.
Enjoy pissing off the real jungler because you need to steal camps to get Sated Devourer.
Or enjoy getting counter-jungled to hell with jungle Vayne.
I rather just play Udyr.
i think we can fix that by nerfing her w then.
that won't work, because the problem with vayne isn't this. Indeed her W has litle counterplay (only as slow and we have 2 items) but her safety is what really needs to be fixed
Nah there wont be a nerf to her, but to the item maybe.
ive done jungle vayne successfully in plat elo, if you get invaded you can ward an back off camp or wait for the enemy to take damage an condem them into the wall, i killed a wu kong about 3 times in my jungle when he trying to steal buffs, vayne is the best ranged jungler her W gives no fucks about the reset healing you can condem monsters into the wall an with krugs buff i can full clear the entire jungle + steal enemy blue without using a single health pot. its all about your skill and how you kite the camps. smite vayne top rush devourer kill the rift scuttler and steal your jungle krugs + the enemy gromp/wolfs and youd get a sated devourer really quick. the item isnt that bad a rush as a laner as it gives magic damage per hit also you get challenging smite for dueling anyone top.
Exactly, i totally agree with you. There will be jungle vaynes that know what they're doing and it'll be fking scary once those type of people get max stacks
In theory
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and sated Devourer can hurt you for 36% of your max hp every hit. That's 72% in two hits.
Does that seem balanced? In theory it seems broken as fuck but who would ever go kogmaw jungle. And if you take smite in lane it just doesn't seem either because of how long it would take to stack that thing.
Unless you somehow manage to get a and pull off a team comp that can hold out 4v5 while warding and protecting koggers as he stacks up the jungle item.