To counter true damage there is only one thing. HP. Ok, that is actually bad, but not as bad as I thought. What about Vayne tho? HP doesn't counter that. Her true damage has no counter, other than that she has to hit you 3 times to proc. Maybe tune it down a little or make it into flat amount (Warlord Rhinark mentioned it).
letsfeedtogether5 voteswhat need to happen is passive and active (like varus)
kingDeDeDarius1 votesI agree
Warlord Rhinark3 votesThat, or turn it into a flat amount.
Shiroyashayami2 votesYup. Then HP would counter it :)
Kanzler2 votesAnd when they tune the numbers, flat true damage would be far more detrimental to low hp squishes than tanks, which isnt the point of the champion.
kingDeDeDarius1 votesBut that percentage is way too fricken high as is, especially with raheblade. Needs to go back to 12 % max, maybe even 10
KFCeytron2 votesHer true damage has no counter, other than that she has to hit you 3 times to proc.
No counter other than the counter.
Okay.
kingDeDeDarius2 votesThat's not a counter. It's merely a slight limiter. Most champs can't deny her three hits in a fight
ZephyrDrake1 votesThat's not a counter. It's merely a slight limiter. Most champs can't deny her three hits in a fight
I forgot that the game was balanced around you being able to do something against every single champion in the game with every single champion in the game
ÔneWindyBoi2 votesIt won't happen. I've been saying that %hp true damage is comepletely broken, unfair, and unfun since ye old forum days on GD. Riot doesn't seem to care that Fiora and Vayne get to melt you no matter what you build.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesFiora and Vayne get to melt you no matter what you build.
Basically the entire point of those two champions.
ÔneWindyBoi3 votesDoesn't make it fun, fair, or interesting to play against.
Edit: To be clear, I wouldn't have such a problem with it if Vayne wasn't invisible and got a bunch of movespeed to chase. And I probably wouldn't get so pissed about Fiora if her passive didn't function as a free RNG zoning tool that forces me to back off and reset it if the RNG is bad. Combined with her insane MS, healing, and true damage it makes for a truly shit toplane experience, not that Riot cares. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't give a shit about top, hence the amount of people leaving the lane and/or quitting the game.
kingDeDeDarius1 votesMaybe the design is bad then. Maybe the point of those champs is poorly thought out.
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesWhat you’re supposed to do is not try and 1v1 the champions that are built to be able to 1v1 nearly anyone in the game.
There are 4 other people on your team. Use them.
Thelittlewarlord2 votes[deleted]
Half Ninja Giant1 votesIt wouldnt really ruin her though? The whole point of vayne is to be a tank killer. But shes an everything killer with guinsoos full stacked she can shoot any champ about 6 times to kill them. Shes perma invisible with the q buffs she received a while ago and shes mobile with the condemn to peel for herself or to duel. Shes way too strong toplane and botlane.
Kanzler2 votesVayne has auto attacks and that is it. She literally cannot do anything to a target outside her 550 range. She has no AoE and target swapping hurts her damage. She only has a knockback with a conditional stun for safety.
As a result, vayne is designed to kill tanks. I would be all for reducing normal attacks if she becomes too strong, but the last thing that should be touched is her tank busting ability.
kingDeDeDarius1 votesYi literally can't do anything to a target outside his melee range, Jax too, Darius can't go past q range, or tryn or any melee. Why do people act like vayne being a 550 range adc is such a hobble? She literally has insane mobility with invisibility potential, insane dps, high burst per second, and amazing self peel. Her only real problem is she is squishy, but so are all adcs
Kanzler1 votesYi has his Q, which hits 4 targets and has a greater range than melee. Hello?
The two are juggernauts, not adc. They are beefy and hit like a truck. Are you even trying?