im only disappointed with one aspect of poppys rework

Critmaster Garen··1 votes·574 views

she doesnt yell demacia on heroic charge. riot please.

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AyRe CoNteMpT2 votes

im disappointed with one thing too: her kit

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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im disappointed with one thing too: her kit

why? its kindof fun. you cant 1v5 people under their turret anymore and walk out with a kill like you used to, but that was crazy.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

shes a full support right now. i wanted her to be a juggernaut like before

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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shes a full support right now. i wanted her to be a juggernaut like before

shes more close to a juggernaut now. though her e makes her pretty mobile, so no idea what to call her. probably just a typical bruiser.

she was pretty much an assassin before. her passive and her ult allowed her to build pretty squishy. dive into the enemy team, burst the carry down and leave.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

her W is useless in solo lane except if you are stronger than an enemy and want to stop him from dashing away but with -1 ability you are not stronger and your ultimate is weak and useless too. its like weaker than a regular ability...

except ofcourse it can be super good for teamfights and all but then again she really is a support. maybe a tanky sololane support and not a botlane support but a support nevertheless. she is not a scary fighter. shes not a juggernaut.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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her W is useless in solo lane except if you are stronger than an enemy and want to stop him from dashing away but with -1 ability you are not stronger and your ultimate is weak and useless too. its like weaker than a regular ability...

except ofcourse it can be super good for teamfights and all but then again she really is a support. maybe a tanky sololane support and not a botlane support but a support nevertheless. she is not a scary fighter. shes not a juggernaut.

her w is a tool to position herself for her e. it prevents the enemy from using dashes to get out of range.

i do wish they would have made her an actual juggernaut and limited the cast range of her e very close to melee, but made her scale better with health.

though i do want to note, that iceborn gauntlet felt really good on her. her cooldowns are relatively short so youre able to proc that sheen passive a lot. it works also to full extent with her passive, allowing you to apply the slow field at range. and it gives you extra waveclear with her q, and some extra burst when you smack an opponent into a wall.

her ult can be huge for teamfights, getting anoying cc machines out of the way to smack squishies around.

it also feels very good. in ou last game ive secured our team an inhibitor by knocking the enemies back to the fountain when they cme to defend it.

urgotdangit1 votes

I found out that your passive resets your swing timer. it's a little weird to use it like that, what with having to navigate to a champ without clicking on them. But a good combo I worked out was W-E (stun works best!)-Q-Auto (passive, applies IBG)-Auto-Q pop. It's a surprising amount of damage.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

to be a juggernaut, you have to be very strong in lane and you have to scale very good to be extremely bulky with alot of damage. basically "juggernaut" means very strong, tanky fighter. lee sin is not a fighter, he is more of a utility assassin but his physical condition is so weak that he cant fight. fighters (and juggernauts even more so) have tremendous physical condition but usually lack much utility.

poppys numbers and all are good so she has the potential to be strong but her kit doesnt allow her to be a threat. poppy is not threatening and she has no offensive options in lane. what can she do against real fighters like darius, garen, renekton, irelia, jax, shyvana. she probably just gets all-inned and dies or bullshits around a bit but she surely does not FIGHT them head on.

her Q has basically no offensive applications except when you get a really lucky stun off with your E (or flash-stun maybe) and ofcourse to waveclear a bit (at least something). her W is useless in a 1on1 scenario EXCEPT if she is stronger and wants to prevent the enemy from escaping but with her kit, a scenario in which she is stronger simply doesnt exist. also her ultimate is, as i said, weak. its base damage and scaling are both good and it also grants a knockup but its weaker than similar combat-ultimates like garens, darius, rivens etc.

against jump-champions it might be easy to gank her because she can E W R for free ganks but then again, its a 2on1 scenario and doesnt contribute to her laning strength.

now to conclude this, i think no matter how strong she is at release or how much she will get nerfed/buffed, she suffers from the yasuo syndrome. if her kit offers her enough damage to actually lane and fight good, her utility is so absurdly high that she basically has everything and if her damage is too low to lane and fight good (which it currently looks like to me) her utility isnt good enough to justify picking her.

what they should ACTUALLY have done is EITHER make her a very safe full utility support with good waveclear so she can be played in either toplane or botlane or make her a really strong juggernaut minimal utility

Blade of Justic1 votes

The kit offers very little for the player to play with and if I hear one more thing about "The Hero", I'm gonna leave her on perma-mute.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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if I hear one more thing about "The Hero", I'm gonna leave her on perma-mute.

all the more reason to add a couple extra lines to her VO.

having her yell demacia on the charge would not only be fitting, but they didnt add that to a demacian since jarvan and lux.

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