I certainly am, facing champs like Ekko that already spams Q throughout lane phase all game. With 3 Doran's, he nearly GAINS mana from 2 Qs. Such interactive gameplay. And let's not forget Doran's also gives damage and health.
Zero Skill Tank15 votesI am not. I support this change, but Nautilus after all nerfs is in riddicoulusly bad state even though he stacks Doran's. Once they remove it he will be literally unplayable. Riot should really adress him the same patch they nerf D Ring.
Sexy Jack Rabbit4 votesThey could start by reverting the mana nerfs from like 2 - 3 patches ago I suppose and go from there?
Zero Skill Tank1 votesI guess. Or just give him any way to prevent enemies from taking my tower while I run OOM by 3rd wave they push into me.
NineTailedMystic13 votesNo, as it completely pigeonholes mids into their Mana item first item no matter what. Zed/Talon? Sucks, be oom under tower 24/7 with Seeker's or have Mana and be ready to feed. Want to rush a high damage item like Luden's , Gunblade, etc? Nope, no Mana to do anything with it.
TheConn1 votesPlay someone who's decent in lane against those champions (like 
), or learn how to play your champs and not spam spells to where you use up all your mana. Riot actually kinda knows how to balance champions so that if you play them right, you can work around limitations such as mana. And it literally just takes away 5 mana per minion if you stack rings, [s] what a pigeonholing nerf that will change the entire meta as we know it. [/s]
NineTailedMystic9 votesAgainst Manaless mids, you have to use your spells or be pushed under tower all laning phase. "just learn to last hit under tower bro" And then be susceptible to dives, lose all lane pressure, and basically give them free reign to roam.
Why in the world would I buy a second Doran's Ring if the passive doesn't stack. 60 HP, 50% Mana Regen is not worth it. Might as well buy Dark Seal instead for the potion healing and flat Mana, plus it has a higher resale cost.
Only 4 (not 5) Mana per mininion? That's 24 Mana per wave. 28 on a Cannon wave. That's ~50 Mana per minute with perfect CS. Mid laners never created issues with stacking Rings, just Tanks.
And yes, it will change the meta slightly. Early build paths will change.
"Just counterpick bro" Not everyone has the luxury of picking after them, knowing the champion to counter them, or even own a champion to counter them.
Azlagor11 votesIF they adjust the absurd mana needs of many champs that currently abuse desperatly need double/tripple dorans to get through lane, i'm fine with it.
But if this change comes through with no adjustments, i see many ap assasin passing out of viablillity and tanks that use mana will finally abandon top.
Anu3isII8 votesNope. I understand they want to nerf those Tanks that rush multiple Doran's Rings, but this affects mages too.
Now I think some Mages will be forced to rush Morello no matter what, and those players who like to have a powerful Early Game can no longer use them to enchant it. It will be very fun to see Morello every game when a second Ring may have been enough to solve Mana issues of some champions.
Also, I don't really understand why 4-5 champions determine the balance of this item when there are many more users of it... You may hate those champions, but that doesn't mean that every nerf to the items they build is a good thing.
You destroy other picks which were not as good as those 4-5, but used the same items. As a person below said, Cho'Gath takes a hit. Some Mages will take a hit too. They could just nerf the abusers than all the users...
RipReviveFkRito7 votesOR..they could just fucking return mana pots eh?
waiting for WoW5 votesYes no more galio/gragas/maokai cheese.
There is no reason why you should be able to drop 800g on 2 extra dorans and then spend 700g on tank items with one back and be set for the rest of your laning phase.
Asayake 5150glow2 votesYes no more galio/gragas/maokai cheese.
There is no reason why you should be able to drop 800g on 2 extra dorans and then spend 700g on tank items with one back and be set for the rest of your laning phase.
Galio doesn't even need tank items lol.
Catalyst and boom, he becomes super tanky and his high mana cost Q becomes super spammable (it's already got low CD), and since his Q is balanced around a high mana cost (it does high damage which is hard to avoid)...
Mighty Mortein4 votesRip that E max Nasus split push build
kasfas2 votesThat's one thing I WONT miss about pre nerf doran's.
SquashCannon2 votes[{quoted}](name=Evil Kermit 1,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AUz1v37x,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-06-11T01:21:16.370+0000)
Rip that E max Nasus split push build
degenerate ass nasus playstyle. True nasi always go for the juicy stacks.
Jeddite3 votesAbout damn time. Doran's should either be entirely unique, or the passive effects made unique so stacking them is grossly inefficient.
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesWhich in the end fucks a lot of midlane champs who need atleast two dorans to even survive laning phase. Taking TP and getting backed with two dorans immediately is such a valuable strategy and it sucks that it seems to get ruined because of lcs.
RekSenpai3 votesI genuinely hate this change. It makes a bad champion already bad, my main, Cho'Gath. It kinda sucks when a champion doesn't even have a designated build path. You can't build him efficiently if you're not snowballing, and he doesn't even have that strong of a kit.
SH Azykan1 votes
into
vs AP or 
vs AD
Then finish 
or 
from your catalyst. Pick up the missing item from above
to finish off the build
is a pretty legitimate late game build, or the RoA in place of GLP
catalyst actually helps a ton in lane, and will be what I build on him after the dorans nerf
right now I skip the AP item altogether in favor of 
or 
but it will be a fine tradeoff
SweedishGunner3 votesNot excited since mid mages get punished because of tank tops. Rito logic.
lilycu3 votesI support this if they bring back mana potions
Chembaron Yamada2 votesJust asking to be sure... they don't give the same treatment to 
?
I am pretty worried for that poor guy 
paisy1 votesThey're buffing him anyway
Steelflame1 votesThey haven't touched the Seal. It's just Dorans stacking abuse they were hitting.
OHminus2 votesNope. All they had to do was nerf Galio's base damage on his Q and he wouldn't be able to clear the casters with 1 q. Instead they do this, where it affects mages too.
Scary Door1 votesI very rarely even see someone build two Doran's rings.
I don't get why that was something Riot felt they needed to address---I mean of all the issues this game currently has it's nice to know that they spent time on that all-too-common (although I've basically never seen it) Triple Doran's start.
If you start 3 Doran's rings you're essentially gimping yourself, you might be able to stay in lane for awhile if you play super safe, but I can't remember the last time I saw someone build 3 of them.
I'm starting to wonder if Riot really does balance around high Elo anymore.
Seenan6 votes[{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AUz1v37x,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-10T19:40:02.452+0000)
I very rarely even see someone build two Doran's rings.
I don't get why that was something Riot felt they needed to address---I mean of all the issues this game currently has it's nice to know that they spent time on that all-too-common (although I've basically never seen it) Triple Doran's start.
If you start 3 Doran's rings you're essentially gimping yourself, you might be able to stay in lane for awhile if you play super safe, but I can't remember the last time I saw someone build 3 of them.
I'm starting to wonder if Riot really does balance around high Elo anymore.
What on earth do you mean? In LCS, AP tanks like Naut or Galio or even Ekko always build 3 Doran's lately in the top lane. If a spell costs like 60 mana and you cast it twice to clear the whole wave, 12 mana a minion means you get at least 60 mana back. That's a whole other cast of that spell.
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesSooo dorans ring should be nerfed because of lcs. Thanks. So i won't be able to get through a rough laning phase with two dorans anymore in midlane. Because of LCS TANKS (!!!!!!!) "abusing" it, it should be nerfed for everyone else. That's riots vendetta on tanks in a nutshell. Fuck everyone if atleast tanks get fucked. Who exactly do these tanks with that build hurt? Is it oppressive or unhealthy? Not really. All it is is boring to watch.
Rewt1 votesAre they making those passives Unique?
underscores2221 votesI've been saysing since season 2 that all dorans items shouldn't be stackable. They're supposed to be starter items - one should be enough to get you started.
PureSilvrr1 voteswhy rush triple dorans and spam a skillshot that can miss when you can just get sheen revolver e onto them proc tld ignite q and kill them?
LordOfTheLeague1 votesThey could have buffed the mana regen since you won't buy more than one now.
sirwaterfles1 votesI would be if they gave tanks some actual laningitems instead which was half the reason this shit became so meta in the firstplace.
Nameless Drifter1 votesSeems like a unnecessary change. I never had a issue dealing with someone stacking doran rings, plus theres obvious counterplay. Someone who is stacking doran rings is slowing their build to come online. In my opinion making it a unique passive will do more harm than good.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesNOONE has an issue with it, except riot and their LCS. Tanks are boring, infinite waveclearing tanks are even more boring. So stacking dorans gets ruined for everyone else. Especially in soloQ going back early after a bad trade or purposely taking TP so you can get back fast with a second doran ring is a very nice strategy into certain matchups on certain champs. Seeing getting this ruined because of LCS annoys the shit out of me. Instead of somehow nerfing the offenders, the item gets nerfed for everyone in the game.
kasfas1 votesI'm looking forward to how the meta is gone by to go, but it's likely another nerf to tanks who want to do damage.
I've actually been playing tanks a lot less because they suck to play now. It's not enjoyable just not having an impact in lane, being forced to farm and then just walking mid and ccing a few people.
So now I play Kled and yorick, because they do damage and don't feel like shit to play.
ModKnightsKemplar1 votesYes. I'm more excited about the support item changes, but the doran's nerf is pretty necessary.
SquashCannon1 votesYes, all you beat ass galio mains who have been triple doran ringing to clear waves and hide under turret will now have to face me like a man or lose some serious CS.
LightIsMyPath1 votesI'm not. Now every matchup into an assassin will be a loose no matter what I do. Either I will feed him or loose all my lane presence by going oom everytime he shoves into my turret.