Please get ADCs (specifically Lucian) out of mid lane

Yenn··3 votes·444 views

There is literally nothing AP carries can do to deal with him, unless it's something like Annie who can unavoidably 100 to 0 him.

For example, I was just playing Vel'koz against a bad Lucian and there was nothing I could do to deal with him once he had BotrK, even though I killed him pre-6 and I was up 20 CS and 2 kills.

The range of his dash + auto is effectively the same as my W, meaning that if I attempt to clear the wave, he can dash into me and chunk a large portion of my health, and then easily side step any follow up thanks to Warlords boosting his MS. This makes it impossible to trade with him unless he fucks up, and I get punished every time I try to use my wave clear.

If he does fuck up and somehow fails to dodge a skill shot, I can't even punish him for it, because I can't 100 to 0 him and he'll completely heal over all of my damage with life steal.

There is absolutely no potential for outplay here, nor any way to really play safe. This is stupid, and applies to almost every mid lane champion that isn't high burst, like Syndra or Annie.

4 Comments

Geauxx1 votes

I would agree 100%, but then i get flashbacks of ziggs in the botlane so it fell to 99%

Hõund1 votes

Here's the thing Lucian is the only marksman viable mid and he has bad matchups as well. Just because you lost to him one time as bel probly means you misplayed or it's a hard counter either way not necessary to nerf nor is it possible to need Lucian out of being a mid lane option because no matter how he's changed unless it's a full rework he will be an option mid or adc at all times your argument is like saying I played against galio mid got stomped please fix this it's not that simple and not even a problem

Darkdemon6531 votes

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The range of his dash + auto is effectively the same as my W

If he's using his dash to harass you, you should be hit him with your E and blow him up. You will kill him long before he kills you.

Erockandroll1 votes

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If he's using his dash to harass you, you should be hit him with your E and blow him up. You will kill him long before he kills you.

It would seem foolish for a Lucian to use his Dash Aggressively like that. Personally, I would imagine a champ like that would use their dashes defensively to avoid poke champs like Vel'koz. But if I was in Vel'koz's position, I would probably focus on farm and wave pushing if I couldn't poke down my opponent.

Personally, it simply feels like that match up would be a stale mate, if both parties were reletively competent, and baring Jungler intervention. But then again, With Lucian being an ADC, he's probably going to have the advantage later on.

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