When did CertainlyT not cause significant problems for League of Legends

Subject 5··6 votes·806 views

Literally, every champion that he creates causes trauma on the game.

Trauma: a deeply distressing or disturbing experience.

Darius : Lane bully that scales into the late game with a kit that out dps's a squishy mage or assassin. Was living hell on release.

Zed : You can't build against him if you are AD and want scaling, the answer to Zed is 2 items in the game and one summoner in the game that is never used. Overloaded kit, Zed is literally only "good" because he has one of the most overloaded kits in the game. An overloaded kit does not make a good champion nor a good champion design! Was living hell on release.

Zyra : Literally, this champion. THIS champion. The only reason this champion at all is played more than Urgot is because of the dedicated fanbase that plays Zyra because she is Zyra. Her kit is so overloaded that it is impossible to balance her as a designed burst mage and a support at the same time while having uncounterable (Bansh veil!) instant damage with cc tacked onto it. Because she has so much shit in her kit, she will likely never actually see realistic play.

Yasuo : "What if we gave a champion that doubled the profit of an item that gave critical damage, but kept it the same price for him so that he has ridiculous damage spikes. Oh, and just for a sick joke let's also give him a knock up every 3 seconds with an ultimate that has a 20 second ult timer on it. And a shield. And a windwall. And a dash. His kit is so overloaded that he is basically in the same position as Zyra. If they buff him, he will be way too strong and if they nerf him, he is just too weak. Don't worry, on the bright side his Q can reach a 0.6 second cooldown ratio with 100% crit.

Kalista : "The community is complaining about mobility creep?" This champions comes out. Aside from her having an infinite stacking E that out smites SMITE she can kite for literal days with an additional escape tacked on her Q that does significant damage. It was almost like CertainlyT tried to piss people off by giving this champion to Riot. Her kit is way overloaded as usual, because why not? You know you fucked up when Kalista did 3k damage to baron after she stopped auto attacking. "You will know a kit is well designed when you have to think about where to put skill points." -A rioter

Mordekaiser : I don't even need to explain.

Thresh "What if we made a champion, that was a support, and had everything in the entire game besides one thing?" -CertainlyT

Literally, Thresh does everything. Need a shield? Got it. Knock up? Got it. Hook? Got it. Poke? Got it. 99% slow with multiple hits? Got it. Slow? Got it. Pull? Got it. Engage or disengage? Got it. Literally, this champion has everything in the entire game besides sustain.

We need more designers like Zenon, a person that actually thinks about what kit he is putting into the game. Zenon created Tahm, Xerath, Lucian and Azir. Azir in my opinion, is a big mistake. But all of these champions did not actually disrupt the entire game. None of these champions actually caused problems for the game and they had a place in the meta, at one point in time. These champions actually have significant counters while also capable of being not quite underwhelming while even being nerfed. Which is the exact opposite of what happens to TerribleT's champions, when they are all nerfed because he is creating champions for Dota. 2.

19 Comments

Sukishoo5 votes

It's the balance teams fault, not his.

General Esdeath 2 votes

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It's the balance teams fault, not his.

Balance team makes the numbers, he's the designer.

Sukishoo4 votes

Their fault they can't balance numbers, not his.

General Esdeath 1 votes

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Their fault they can't balance numbers, not his.

Except he designs his champs to be powered by one skill. Morde Q, Darius ult, Garen ult, Riven was going to be based around her ult.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Doesn't he design the champion though?

Things like Kalista are just so poorly designed, a champion who revolves around infinite dashes, infinite scaling damage, and she's so mobile that even her Support gets a free mile long dash. These designs are inherently broken, they'll either be way too overbearing or just useless.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

+1 can't say the champs are unfun when played BY US though actually nvm yasuo is shit anyway

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

zyra is overloaded?

ha, a brand's W, 10% cdr passive, aoe root, aoe knock up is overloaded hahaha.

what is lulu then? super super overloaded?

what i love in board is that people will hate thresh even if he has 45% win rate in world and 48% win rate in soloQ

frigginmurlocs1 votes

You know, I notice your name means you play dota, so do you think zues or silencer is better with refresher?

Subject 51 votes

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frigginmurlocs1 votes

You know, I was talking to ZuesHasRefresher, not you

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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You know, I notice your name means you play dota, so do you think zues or silencer is better with refresher?

silencer ofc, 12 seconds silence, and if they bkb you cast it again. zeus can't do this his ulti doesn't go through bkb

Subject 52 votes

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zyra is overloaded?

ha, a brand's W, 10% cdr passive, aoe root, aoe knock up is overloaded hahaha.

what is lulu then? super super overloaded?

what i love in board is that people will hate thresh even if he has 45% win rate in world and 48% win rate in soloQ

Brand is overloaded. He has a skill shot Q, applies burn. W applies burn, E applies burn. Ult is an aoe nuke.

Zed has one escape, two escapes, aoe damage skill shots that can hit more than one directions at a time, no resources with aoe spinning attack, magic damage because why not? An ultimate that basically doubles damage input and then damage steroids with free farm. There is more but hey, you can take the time to look it up yourself.

Lulu is overloaded? Fine, Nidalee is overloaded and so is Elise. They have two different sides of their kit, but the point is that they are SPECIFICALLY designed to have a double kit. Lulu on the other hand . . . She has a slow, polymorph or a speed boost. A shield. (Ooooo a shield!) and a knock-up health recovery.

"Buht mah wan rate says-!" Did you know that the game has a community that doesn't play worlds? Oh my gosh, no way! (Say it in Sky Williams voice) Did you know that there is a community that actually keeps the game going, aside from competitive play? Did you know that win rates don't mean literally everything about a champion? Why on earth would you pick another champion aside from Niche picks against Thresh?

General Esdeath 1 votes

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zyra is overloaded?

ha, a brand's W, 10% cdr passive, aoe root, aoe knock up is overloaded hahaha.

what is lulu then? super super overloaded?

what i love in board is that people will hate thresh even if he has 45% win rate in world and 48% win rate in soloQ

Q, W passive and the seed activation, her ult damage, the knock up, and her passive skill shot. Somewhere between overloaded and not loaded. Not to mention her seeds change with each skill that touches them.

Ralantha1 votes

You used literally so often I can't read any of it. Is this a popular thing now? Literal is to be used when a metaphorical reasoning can also be made. What is a literal days?

Anyway, those are some champs that someone helped design the whole team went with it. Is CertainlyT the only member of the concept or design team? Who else is a part of it? One person says we should do this and the rest follow? How much testing gets put into place before PBE? Who gives the green light at the end of the day? Him or someone else? I'm really curious. I don't know much about the design process and the only Rioter I've really talked to has been IronStylus.

frigginmurlocs2 votes

literally has literally lost its meaning in online discussions

MalzaharAnyLane1 votes

and most high schools and freshman/sophomore years

Ralanr1 votes

I really don't see the point of these hate threads anymore. I think we have more than enough if everyone thinks it will get him fired.

Croanin1 votes

I honestly give CertainlyT a pass on Yasuo, he's like the only melee carry that works on a competitive level. For a squishy melee carry to work their kit has to be overloaded to make up for their weakness of being squishy melee.

Everything else though yea.....Zed and Darius I can appreciate the design creativity, **but WTF were they thinking with Thresh and especially Kalista! ** I mean can't Morello just veto his freakin champion designs and cut out half the utility.

Thresh literally does everything like you said, he can poke, engage, disengage and bail out his teammates. Kalista? Mobility creep out of hand? NP lets design a champion with infinite freakin dashes!

Indominus Blade1 votes

Darius is not a lane bully, Zed wasn't designed by CertainlyT and was absolute garbage when he was released, he become viable after they reworked and added new items for season3/pre-season. Didn't bother reading the rest, you don't know what you are talking about gold 3 fr00b.

Downvoted, cya.

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