Can we discuss how uninteractive/lacking counterplay Nasus is if he isn't shut down early?

Yenn·Oct 31, 2017·5 votes·410 views

This is probably the biggest design fuck up currently in the game.

Particularly once it hits late game and he's sitting at 500+ movement speed and capable of one shotting 70% of a carry's health (or 1/4 of a turret), which in turn procs Stormraider and makes him even more impossible to kite.

There's something wrong when the counterplay requires you to bring three of your friends.

**EDIT: **Also, the new Sterak's is completely fucking broken on him. Kiting him is already extremely hard, but it becomes absurd when he gets the 30% Tenacity.

17 Comments

PoskeOct 31, 20172 votes

Of all things you are crying about nasus

AD CARRIES DO THE SAME FKING THING FROM 600+ RANGE

nelogisOct 31, 20171 votes

was just about to say that ^^

Would fight a 10/0 Nasus anyday of the week than a 10/0 Kog

Death by GlamourOct 31, 20171 votes

It doesn't make what is being said any less true

PoskeOct 31, 20171 votes

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It doesn't make what is being said any less true

Lets not start nerfing melee overlords while ranged overlords + snowbally stomps are a thing

Baron BarianOct 31, 20171 votes

The secret is....you can't ignore him in the early game.

YennOct 31, 20171 votes

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The secret is....you can't ignore him in the early game.

Which is extremely unhealthy, especially with the current state of the early game.

If your jungle doesn't take advantage of his early game, you end up with an unstoppable monstrosity. If your jungle does stop his early game, you lose dragon and bottom lane probably gets gang banged for first turret gold, because your jungle isn't there to counter it.

Baron BarianOct 31, 20171 votes

Then either have a competent top laner or pick your poison. That's it.

RaoulOct 31, 20171 votes

Honestly, when I play with 1 or 2 friends we often let Nasus have the toplane and kite him lategame. Nasus has the serious weakness that he crumbles as soon as he cant land his Q in fights. I personaly love to pick Lulu against him and normaly I never have a problem even with a fed Nasus.

YennOct 31, 20171 votes

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Honestly, when I play with 1 or 2 friends we often let Nasus have the toplane and kite him lategame. Nasus has the serious weakness that he crumbles as soon as he cant land his Q in fights. I personaly love to pick Lulu against him and normaly I never have a problem even with a fed Nasus.

You can't kite him unless you have multiple forms of CC, and if anyone gets too close and he gets a Q off, he becomes completely unkiteable due to Stormraiders. A single Lulu can't do shit to stop him once he hits 500 MS. More likely you're playing against monkeys. Wither is stronger than Lulu's Q.

Which is entirely the issue: the counterplay is bringing three of your friends to stop him, leaving the rest of his team to do whatever the fuck they want.

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Of all things you are crying about nasus

AD CARRIES DO THE SAME FKING THING FROM 600+ RANGE

Which AD carry has 500 MS and 3k+ health with their core build, yet can sill dumpster 1/4 of a tower every 2-3 seconds?

RaoulOct 31, 20172 votes

Dont forget that Nasus is also responsible for global warming and electing Trump...

Shuriman CuratorOct 31, 20171 votes

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Dont forget that Nasus is also responsible for global warming and electing Trump...

+1 mate

GripaAviaraOct 31, 20171 votes

He is kite-able. But yeah, the whole concept of uncapped stacking, like Nasus and Veigar, has, is not healthy

MordepoolOct 31, 20171 votes

I'm pretty sure Riot intended for Nasus to be a Late Game Threat SOOOOOOO what's the issue?

Need Gold 4 TentOct 31, 20171 votes

Actually he is a living contradiction because of his shitty early game that promises but fails to deliver a good lategame, instead peaking at a stupid midgame where he is capable of 1v3-ing because scalings haven't caught up to his stacks.

The problem:

The stacks scale too fast if he does decently (an average Nasus is a monster at about 20 mins with a and ~300 stacks)
They still don't give him a lategame regardless of how well he does. (a fed 800 stack full build Nasus is still useless @35 mins except for demolishing turrets)

It's actually a lousy trade-off, considering the shit he has to deal with for the first 15 minutes that still pressures him to win before he gets outscaled by bot lane. At least Twitch has his lategame as a payoff for surviving his horrible lane phase which isn't even that horrible to begin with.

Red WreckageOct 31, 20171 votes

complaining about nasus....

this is next level of trash maybe

how fun and interactive laning vs Pantheon Renekton JarvanIV Kayle MonkeyKing as nasus is?