Enemy just counterpicked my Vel'koz with Zed, I now have to dodge or take a loss

Yenn··2 votes·1,329 views

How about actually fixing how retardedly binary Zed is against immobile casters?

I shouldn't go into a game knowing that no matter what I do or build, there's no way for me to stop his all in from killing me short of having the jungler sitting in my lane 24/7 (which I can't control).

With the current state of damage, his combo is literally more than my max health with just a Serrated Dirk.

19 Comments

Despìca Bìll4 votes

Lol. I'm afraid Jamaree was right about you. You complain about literally everything in the game. Think any of these might help? summoner 21 summoner 3 item 2420 item 3027 item 3157 item 3053 item 3140 item 3139

I routinely get matched against Zeds, and even the good ones can't do much besides roam if I'm not playing stupid. At that point, if you've pinged, roaming is out of your hands, and has nothing to do with Zed. If an unranked player like me can counter Zed with obvious item and spell choices, are you telling me a plat 3 can't?

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

He's doing this for so many years now. I'm still quite surprised there's still people thinking he's serious.

Also, he'll be a good example for those "You can't talk about balance because you're Bronze" commentors.

Blu 11 votes

item 3053

... on Vel'koz?

Despìca Bìll1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blu 1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AHZuyimJ,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-06-20T05:32:42.185+0000)

... on Vel'koz?

Didn't say it was a good choice. The point is, there are plenty of things you can do against Zed besides whine. Side-note, why is there always one of you who stoops to pick up the obvious, as though fifty other people didn't notice it?

Amorith1 votes

Does cleanse work against zed ult?

Despìca Bìll1 votes

{quoted}

Does cleanse work against zed ult?

I appear to be in error there. It did at one point, and now doesn't. However, QSS does.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

gotta get that daily dose of yenn

ChaoticEkko2 votes

Zhon.... Yas...???

Yenn1 votes

{quoted}

Zhon.... Yas...???

He can get fed enough to kill you without his ult before you can complete Zhonya.

Despìca Bìll1 votes

{quoted}

He can get fed enough to kill you without his ult before you can complete Zhonya.

Sure he can...if you or careless teammates feed him. But then, that's not really a problem with Zed, is it?

Toppien2 votes

i hate zed, i hate him with passion but losing lane with vel'koz? really? you literally can be safe at all times almost as much as zed just get some mana items and zhonya's and you can at least survive till he get bored and roams for other lanes

Yenn2 votes

{quoted}

i hate zed, i hate him with passion but losing lane with vel'koz? really? you literally can be safe at all times almost as much as zed just get some mana items and zhonya's and you can at least survive till he get bored and roams for other lanes

Vel'koz's wave clear range with only W is 1050. Zed's poke range is 1550 (900 for both hits). Zed's all in range is 1250.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Despìca Bìll1 votes

{quoted}

Vel'koz's wave clear range with only W is 1050. Zed's poke range is 1550 (900 for both hits). Zed's all in range is 1250.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Lol. So you're saying he can reliably poke you with one shuriken if you're careless (which, for those who don't know, does very little damage. You need two to get anything serious out of it), and all-in you to death before you can drop 600 gold on a stopwatch, and somehow summoner spells don't even factor? XD

Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Stand Alone Wolf2 votes

Who did you ban? If Zed's that big of a problem (Big enough that you have to make a thread on this issue) you'd think he'd be the one you ban as to prevent him from countering the shit outta ya.

Prospector Pete1 votes

While I don't like Zed as much as the next guy, I think that it might have been your 0/12 Draven and your 2/11 Lulu that really lost the game for you. I don't know the exact details of the game but while Zed was the most fed, there were definitely other champions on his team that were doing very well too.

Morgana Q Misser1 votes

Watch a pro play vs a high elo zed as a poke mage like Vel, Lux or Zoe

Vel is different to other poke mages as his kit has true damage meaning he ignores nullifying orb (direct Zed vs AP buff btw) to some extent

But focus on wave management, vision control, items, trades, cooldowns and levels

CppL1 votes

Im prety sure vel"koz has the lowest mp cost of all the mages,so you can just rush zhonyas and just pick barrier.

Scuffleboard1 votes

I play plenty of Vel'Koz. You have to be very careful not to overextend or get caught out. Stay further back and he shouldn't really be able to do what you're describing, plus you can still get a lot of damage off from long range. Unless he has way more mechanical skill than you, you should at least be able to avoid feeding.

And yeah, Zhonya's is a good idea.

More from Gameplay

More by Yenn