How do you actually counterplay Annie?

Jefftiffy·Feb 9, 2017·3 votes·865 views

Seriously, building doesnt save you. Her entire combo does like 2.5k damage (and like 1.8k AoE) so the stun is irrelevant. I feel like literally the only way to beat Annie is to have her wiff tibbers which is very hard to do considering its instant and she often flash ults on to you. This doesn't even account for the extra mobility from .

I feel the fact that she is an AoE champ and a lane bully should mean that she focuses on AoE and lockdown not AoE and single target burst. I mean the only way to beat her is to hope she is bad or have someone tanky enough to stun lock her while you get in range.

I feel more legitimately killed by Veigar than Annie because at the very least he had to land skill shots to do his damage and even then his AoE is much smaller and shorter range.

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Variks the LoyalFeb 9, 20171 votes

Annie is a lane bully?

I know she has a lot of safety and Mana sustain, but I wouldn't call her a bully.

The general counterplay is to watch her counter and engage on her when she doesn't have her stun, and keep your distance when she has it. She has pretty short range, so it should be doable. You could also work a Banshee's Veil into your build somewhere.

JefftiffyFeb 9, 20172 votes

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Annie is a lane bully?

I know she has a lot of safety and Mana sustain, but I wouldn't call her a bully.

The general counterplay is to watch her counter and engage on her when she doesn't have her stun, and keep your distance when she has it. She has pretty short range, so it should be doable. You could also work a Banshee's Veil into your build somewhere.

The thing is it doesnt save you from flash ults and that also she can just charge her stun in the dark. I mean sure you can track her stun but she also has random defensive tools (seriously why does she has a damage reduction in her kit it). And even if you kill her Tibbers does like 600 damage before you can pop him off and you take more damage if she uses her E to shield him.

Her entire kit is really toxic. She has a 1500 range nuke thanks to flash. She has a damage reduction that also damages people who hit it and buffs tibbers. And even if you manage to kill her tibbers runs at full speed at you instead of dying.

Variks the LoyalFeb 9, 20171 votes

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The thing is it doesnt save you from flash ults and that also she can just charge her stun in the dark. I mean sure you can track her stun but she also has random defensive tools (seriously why does she has a damage reduction in her kit it). And even if you kill her Tibbers does like 600 damage before you can pop him off and you take more damage if she uses her E to shield him.

Her entire kit is really toxic. She has a 1500 range nuke thanks to flash. She has a damage reduction that also damages people who hit it and buffs tibbers. And even if you manage to kill her tibbers runs at full speed at you instead of dying.

Eh, I wouldn't rely on that 1500 range. Flash has a 5 minute CD. Force her to blow it defensively with a gank and she won't have it for a long time.

Her damage reduction only lasts 3 seconds. And Tibbers is easily kited; treat it like Sion's passive.

Her kit is basic, but there is counterplay there. She's a Burst Mage, so expect her to burst people. If you aren't someone who can survive the burst, ping your jungler for help and stick with a Support or Tank in the late game. Keep wards around so that people can see her coming.

ChaddyFantomeFeb 9, 20171 votes

{quoted} Her damage reduction only lasts 3 seconds. And Tibbers is easily kited; treat it like Sion's passive.

Sion's passive doesn't do % HP AOE damage.

Variks the LoyalFeb 9, 20171 votes

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Her damage reduction only lasts 3 seconds. And Tibbers is easily kited; treat it like Sion's passive.

Sion's passive doesn't do % HP AOE damage.

... Neither does Tibbers.

But, Sion's passive attacks do do % HP damage.

ChaddyFantomeFeb 9, 20171 votes

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... Neither does Tibbers.

But, Sion's passive attacks do do % HP damage.

Damn i could swear it used to do % damage. Regardless , it still just does high scaling ambient damage. and gains a buttload of movement and attack speed.

Sion passive doesn't and is pretty useless in most situations. Tibbers will still con tribute a huge amount of damage to a teamfight even after annie dies.

PPPPPPPPPPPP270Feb 9, 20171 votes

Annie can't wave clear if she keeps her stun up. You can easily shove Annie with most mages. She is basically reliant on nuking you with tibbers to even accomplish anything in lane.