Garen with boots, Phage, and Kindlegem. Udyr with Devourer and Tabi.
Garen runs towards me, I decide 'lol I'll just stun him and run away.' I stun him, he spins, and by the time I get out of it, I'm at 50% health.
redniwediS2 votesPhage gives AD. He also probably has AD from his runes and masteries. Probably not much, but Garen doesn't really need much for early damage.
Ninja Tabi helps you against auto attacks, and honestly has a pathetic amount of armor. You had no other armor or health from items. Just so we're clear about this Garen's spin does not count as auto attacks.
That is why he chunked you down so fast, because you're relying on meager defenses against a champion who, early on, is pretty much just movement speed and damage.
You didn't die, but Garen still decided to teach you just how effective your stun and boots are against an AD caster. I suggest you take that lesson to heart.
Crossette1 votesGaren doesn't really need much for early damage
That's the problem, he NEVER needs items for damage after that.
redniwediS2 votesIs that the problem? It's not the OP's problem.
Against squishy opponents it gives Garen the sticking power to actually deal his damage. Against tanky opponents it's armor shread isn't usually enough to do significant damage on the first spin.
I've never actually seen a game where someone complained about Garen AND was building defensively against him. It always seems to be squishy players asking why he does so much damage against their weak defenses when they do so little damage to his strong defenses.
I usually get around 250 AD with just two damage items. That's a significant amount of AD, and is usually completely looked over by people saying I built tanky.
I guess my point is this; if there is a problem it's not with Garen, it's with the tanky AD items.
Crossette1 votesFair point.
I still think Titanic Hydra and BC are a bit fucked on numbers, specifically gold efficiency on BC and active/passive on Titanic.
Ser Garland1 votesWere you a villain? If so, that's why.
Rain NT1 votesHis spin does less does when hitting multiple targets, making him great at 1v1 with no minions.
Yenn1 votesThis is a fucking joke. 5 item Garen sitting at ~4000 health, basically equivalent to a full tank, kills my 5 item Udyr in 4-5 seconds. And chunks my team at the same time.
Ending the game with more damage than his ADC.
Rain NT1 votesIf you want to beat him get Sated Botrk DeadMP Frozenheart Ninja and baam you shouldnt lose to him. Unless youre the villian and fighting him without minions.
Raxxxus1 votesyea black cleaver only has effect of lowering armor but it feels like there's a hidden effect when garen has it of doing damage %health so hes able to just Q engage and then spin and with black cleaver giving him his cheat damage and the rest of his items for D there is no means to really zone him and control a fight against him, since his Q lets him break slows, and then he can just Q kite around giving him time on his spin cooldown then dunks a person at 35% health for "wtf" kill most times, I say to do damage you need damage item build, to tank you need tank item build, just having 1 item for damage shouldn't let you 2k health damage in 4.5 sec at level 9. Garen with black cleaver, should have some damage but just enough to aid his team in fights not carry in damage.
Vesarixx1 votesBecause juggernauts are balanced Kappa [slayer-jinx-catface]