Juggernauts/bruisers are basically tanky assassins without waveclear

Yenn·Jun 13, 2018·2 votes·1,109 views

It would be really cool if we could lower damage just a little bit, because this is pretty dumb.

21 Comments

ChaddyFantomeJun 13, 20186 votes

and without Mobility.

...huh. its almost like they aren't alike at all at that point.

P4ppinoJun 14, 20182 votes

Most assassins don't have waveclear though.

AirKingNeoJun 13, 20181 votes

name a competitively viable juggernaut

name a competitively viable bruiser who isn't irelia

I'll wait

YennJun 13, 20182 votes

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name a competitively viable juggernaut

name a competitively viable bruiser who isn't irelia

I'll wait

Competitive (aka well balanced teams with champions that play to each others' strengths) and the other 99.9% of the game are two completely separate things.

AirKingNeoJun 13, 20182 votes

Champions who are BROKEN in solo queue are also competitively viable

but sure, we can also use "broken in solo queue" as a measure as well.

Meep ManJun 14, 20181 votes

Competitive Bruiser can probably be named besides Irelia depending on how flexible your definition of a Bruiser is (because it varies slightly from person to person, as some consider Kled a Bruiser while others don't). Jugg is a lot harder though.

BrightWîngsJun 14, 20181 votes

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name a competitively viable juggernaut

name a competitively viable bruiser who isn't irelia

I'll wait

Darius Fiora Renekton Trundle Warwick Urgot XinZhao Udyr Riven Camille

Warlord RhinarkJun 14, 20182 votes

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Since when was Riven and Renekton competitively viable?

BrightWîngsJun 14, 20182 votes

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Since when was Riven and Renekton competitively viable?

not sure why competitive even matters the champions are viable the majority of people who play the game are not in competitive and competitive is not even what he was even talking about you brought it up for no reason lol if you're gonna make an argument start off with something that makes sense competitive play is drastically different than normal play they dont see much competitive play because there are better champions for an organized team of 5 to use.

AirKingNeoJun 14, 20181 votes

Darius, Fiora, Renekton, Warwick, Urgot, Xin Zhao, Udyr, RIven, and Camille aren't competitively viable. (Good Sterak's Nerf btw)

Trundle is played as a support.

BrightWîngsJun 14, 20182 votes

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Darius, Fiora, Renekton, Warwick, Urgot, Xin Zhao, Udyr, RIven, and Camille aren't competitively viable. (Good Sterak's Nerf btw)

Trundle is played as a support.

no one is talking about competitive still dont know why you keep bringing it up

AirKingNeoJun 14, 20181 votes

really? Might want to read the first comment in the chain.

BrightWîngsJun 15, 20181 votes

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really? Might want to read the first comment in the chain.

Really? because you cant read what the post was about or what I've been saying YOU are talking about competitive HE (person who made the post) was NOT therefore there is no point in mentioning competitive league what so ever completely pointless and makes no sense

AirKingNeoJun 15, 20181 votes

because if ZERO bruisers or juggernauts are competitively viable, then he has no right to complain about them. Why would we nerf what isn't strong?

BrightWîngsJun 15, 20181 votes

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because if ZERO bruisers or juggernauts are competitively viable, then he has no right to complain about them. Why would we nerf what isn't strong?

Because they are strong in normal play... the part of the game were 99% of the players playing are.

AirKingNeoJun 15, 20181 votes

High tier normal play and competitive play have similar metas, so they aren't strong in normal play either.