Kayn idea

Jbels·Oct 13, 2017·1 votes·274 views

What if when hitting the transform threshold for Kayn, Kayn gained half of the benefits of the form that is locked out for 4 minutes? During games where one form is definitely the better choice, getting the other form instead and having to wait for 4 minutes sucks. Allowing Kayn to have half of the power now while waiting for the whole transformation could smooth out the waiting period.

Thematically, it could also be seen as Kayn or Rhast fighting against the impending domination of the form that can be unlocked right away

6 Comments

Radiant SeraphOct 13, 20171 votes

Just focus the right enemy type? I don't see the problem here.

JbelsOct 13, 20171 votes

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Just focus the right enemy type? I don't see the problem here.

I would take this into consideration if the little circle told me which of the two sides I had more filled up against teams with very even range distribution

Don SpaghettiOct 13, 20171 votes

Why not just let him lower the timer by getting orbs of the right type

Or just letting you pick either form after getting enough orbs of any type

The whole transformation mechanic is incredibly irritating considering how bad base Kayn is after like 10 minutes. Playing to get the right transformation can be pretty detrimental for the team too. The meta is extremely bot-centric, which is almost always two ranged champions, and Rhaast is significantly better than SA 90% of the time but you need to hit melees. So you either have to ignore bot after ~9-10 minutes while you get Rhaast, or risk getting SA and being useless for a good 4 extra minutes. That's a pretty significant amount of time considering how short games are now.

JbelsOct 14, 20171 votes

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Why not just let him lower the timer by getting orbs of the right type

Or just letting you pick either form after getting enough orbs of any type

The whole transformation mechanic is incredibly irritating considering how bad base Kayn is after like 10 minutes. Playing to get the right transformation can be pretty detrimental for the team too. The meta is extremely bot-centric, which is almost always two ranged champions, and Rhaast is significantly better than SA 90% of the time but you need to hit melees. So you either have to ignore bot after ~9-10 minutes while you get Rhaast, or risk getting SA and being useless for a good 4 extra minutes. That's a pretty significant amount of time considering how short games are now.

It honestly is super frustrating to have to either wait 4 minutes or go shadow assassin, especially since shadow assassin feels like ass to play

lilpokflufOct 14, 20171 votes

So you mean give shadow assassin red Kanye abilities? Cause shadow assassin is ass and if he had half the usefulness red kanye had blue Kanye would probably be a decent cheese pick as far as Kanye goes for Jayne in lane on a traine in Maine early game as far as I can Kanye

JbelsOct 14, 20171 votes

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So you mean give shadow assassin red Kanye abilities? Cause shadow assassin is ass and if he had half the usefulness red kanye had blue Kanye would probably be a decent cheese pick as far as Kanye goes for Jayne in lane on a traine in Maine early game as far as I can Kanye

Ok no no what I mean is, this is entirely BEFORE transformation. As soon as you transform, this part of the passive is completely gone and kayn plays as normal. When you hit the point where you CAN transform, you get half of the power of the locked out form on base kayn for the 4 minutes that it's locked out for. Just so the waiting period doesn't suck so much ass when you get the form you don't want. It's not like it would bust Kayn, it's power he's going to have at some point anyway (Noteable exclusions: No knock-up on W for base Kayn, no passive reset for Shadow Assassin damage boost on base Kayn)