Lucian's slow cleanse

kJs·Jun 28, 2015·21 votes·1,409 views

What if he got it back, except this time the slow cleanse can only happen while he is ulting?
It betters his repositioning while ulting.

13 Comments

kile147Jun 28, 20153 votes

I think this is a cool idea, but buffing Lucian right now is a little scary just because he's fairly well balanced as is. I think that if they did this, it would have to be done with the understanding that it would immediately be reverted if he became problematic. In my experience with this game neither Riot nor the community tends to handle that situation well as Riot seems to defend changes made fairly adamantly, and the community tends to get really whiny about buffing champs like Lucian, whereas fanboys tend to get whiny when their champ isn't given more time to shine :P.

TLDR: Cool idea but it would probably just end up being more trouble for everyone involved.

Hide on BrushJun 28, 20153 votes

when lucian came out he was a lot better place than he is now (even though everyone thought he was shit). basically a lane bully into nothing. same with cait

FistOfSharkieshaJun 29, 20152 votes

He's probably the the third strongest duelist of any ADC. I wouldn't say he's nothing right now.

Hide on BrushJun 29, 20151 votes

who cares about dueling when games are decided by 5v5 teamfights. his range is so bad for teamfights anymore and he doesn't have the utility sivir and vayne have

kile147Jun 29, 20152 votes

Using that logic Graves is in an awful place, which he isn't. Just because someone isn't as strong at the moment doesn't mean that they are weak. In this case it means Lucian doesn't fit into this meta as well as Vayne or Sivir because they specialize in fighting with/against tank teams, whereas Lucian and Graves focus more on bursting squishy targets and dueling.

An On-hit build with Lucian using item 3153 can still shred tanks, and his synergy with Braum can make up for his weaknesses in this meta. He's not that weak, he's just out of the meta.

PæanJun 29, 20152 votes

"An On-hit build with Lucian using can still shred tanks, and his synergy with Braum can make up for his weaknesses in this meta. He's not that weak, he's just out of the meta."

Whenever I see a Lucian lock in on my team i almost 100% of the time insta lock Braum. Aside from him being one of my favorite and strongest supports, that synergy to proc my passive is too good to pass up.

kJsJun 29, 20151 votes

Then you go into a game against Ezreal Sona ! They may not be the two best counter-picks in teamfights but they are annoying as hell for Braum who can't heal sustain all the damage.

Aside from that, yeah Lucian + Braum is OP as fuck if the enemy misclicks for a second or stays for a little split second more.

I usually W to a minion to get to melee range to the enemy adc. Then I Q. while Lucian dashes to proc the double stun. They often end up wasting flash, if I do a really good job then they heal as well.

PæanJun 29, 20151 votes

I normally jump to a minion then auto-Q-auto, because Q can quicken your auto animation if done right.

A braum shield can block sona stun AND ezreal ulti which totally destroys their level 6 burst. Braum is the manliest manly man who ever graced the rift.

DrCyanideJun 28, 20152 votes

I always thought the slow cleanse made for a nice interaction between him and Thresh, and miss it from that perspective.

LilxPaprikaJun 28, 20152 votes

his e got hit hard a lot since its inception. but boyyyyy was it ever broken! now that it cost mana and has had its cooldown increase i wouldn't object to this being reinstated. also slows are pretty common in this game such that even if he removes one it shouldn't be too difficult to apply another, it would also encourage enemy to try and get lucian to use E before using your slow on him. There also aren't too many counter picks to slows heavy teams. lucian into ashe might be nice choice with this. granted dashes do counter slows in general.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Eur92Lt3-slows-effect-dash-range: maybe buff a slow's duration if someone uses a dash ability while slowed. riven gets slowed she dashes. that dashed practically made .5 second of that slow irrelevant. so for each dash a slow's duration could be extended by .5 seconds? in other words a slow will only be factored over ground covered while walking.