So it's just okay for him to have all of this x2?
Zac engages from like 2 screens away and then prevents you from escaping with his nearly unlimited cc.
And his damage is at least 80% of lee sin's
Plus, he's about 3x tankier than lee
Oh no keep complaining about lee guys while we ignore the actual problem with this game.
Carl Grimes TWD16 votesZac's lowkey busted.
L Psy Kongroo4 votesYou can dodge Zac's cc. You can't dodge Lee's.
Çhåryzård3 votesMaybe it has to do with the fact that Lee is the #1 picked Jungler right now and Zac is the 11th?
I'm sure if Zac was played more, people would be on here complaining more about him. He's not as much of an issue right now because you don't see him in almost every single game
PermabannedGaren1 votesMaybe it has to do with the fact that Lee is the #1 picked Jungler right now and Zac is the 11th?
I'm sure if Zac was played more, people would be on here complaining more about him. He's not as much of an issue right now because you don't see him in almost every single game
To be fair, Lee Sin is the most picked jungler even when he's bad, though he's certainly far from bad right now.
Çhåryzård1 votesTo be fair, Lee Sin is the most picked jungler even when he's bad, though he's certainly far from bad right now.
True, but I'm sure if Zac were played a lot more people would be on the boards talking about him too.
Lee is played almost every single game and you can't dodge his CC. You can dodge Zac's CC and if he misses his launch then he can't really do much to you. He takes time to charge up his mobility and his engage.
Lee on the other hand....if you get Q'd and he wants to fight, he will make you fight, and you can't stop it..
PermabannedGaren1 votesTrue, but I'm sure if Zac were played a lot more people would be on the boards talking about him too.
Lee is played almost every single game and you can't dodge his CC. You can dodge Zac's CC and if he misses his launch then he can't really do much to you. He takes time to charge up his mobility and his engage.
Lee on the other hand....if you get Q'd and he wants to fight, he will make you fight, and you can't stop it..
If you get Q'd.
If you get E'd by Zac and he wants to fight, he will make you fight as well. His ult is just as undodgeable as Lee Sin's if you're in range. So Zac has just as much unavoidable CC as Lee Sin does (albeit he can be a shitter and misuse his). He just also has much more CC on top of it.
KVbqbFsC8e3 votesIf Zac was one of the most picked champions throughout his existence and was immune to any real nerfs, sure.
Taliyah Rocks3 votesBecause Zac is really easy to predict and if he misses you with his E, he just lost half of his power.
Lee on the other game can have such a huge impact on the early game... and he can ''outplay'' people with his mobility, it's way easier to deny a Zac.
A Basic Island2 votesmajority of boards is bronze so they hate champs like Lee
they just hop on the bandwagon cus someone said lee is op, so they like "guis lee op."
Sheep being sheep
Live2LetDie1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA04nbviQ8E
Just saying
ZT Xperimentor1 votesDifference is, zac has actual costs & cooldowns, lol.
doodlebob6661 voteszac really doesnt have either
ZT Xperimentor1 votesEngage cooldown's without cooldown reduction. Zac's slingshot starts at 24 seconds & drops down to 12 at max rank. Also costs 4% of current health; though he gains back the health by picking up the blob, that's often unpractical in a fight. It's interruptible & telegraphed. Leesin's sonic/resonating strike starts at 11 seconds and is 7 at max rank. Cost is 50 energy; which while is a bit more of the pool than mana spells, but refills by the time this ability is ready again. So effectively no cost, and both parts of it travel faster, leaving less room to stop him.
Ultimates without cdr. Zac's bounce begins at 130 seconds and lowers to 100 at max, though no cost. Leesin's rage begins at 90 seconds and lowers to 60 at max, also no cost.
Not to mention leesin can get 40% cdr easier than zac by common items.
doodlebob6661 voteshuh never knew his cooldowns were that long, i always play him with 30% cdr in runes
ZT Xperimentor1 votesYeah 45% makes very few champions more tedious to use too, such as rumble.
BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votesWell he was the most banned awhile ago, only reason it went down was because other champions needed to be prioritized over him as a ban.
Dryditch1 votesLee has absurd in-fight mobility. Zac has highly telegraphed mobility that takes time for him to charge up. To use his E, he has to stop doing any form of damage for a not insignificant amount of time, unless he's instant-popping it on someone, which means you're melee range of him for more than the eight seconds it takes his E to come off CD after its last use.
Literally just walk away from Zac. You're probably faster than he is, especially if you have any kind of dash.
