Something needs to be done by post-20 minutes jungle starvation

Yenn··20 votes·1,011 views

Super fun falling behind 5k+ gold and 3-4 levels, because your team is clearing all of the jungle camps and isn't allowing you to split, leaving you with no source of income for the remainder of the game.

In a lot of these games, I even have laners stealing the jungle camps while I'm fighting them.

This is not healthy or okay.

16 Comments

Hethalean12 votes

How do you feel about junglers going into lanes and take the farm? I've seen that happening since I started this game a few years ago.

Yenn3 votes

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How do you feel about junglers going into lanes and take the farm? I've seen that happening since I started this game a few years ago.

If it's going to hit the turret or nobody is coming to get it, it's fine. Waves spawn quickly, and need to be pushed out.

Jungle camps take a long time to respawn, and the jungle gets significantly increased EXP from them (especially if they're behind).

Hethalean1 votes

I thought they took the 'behind mechanic' for XP out last season.

Yenn3 votes

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I thought they took the 'behind mechanic' for XP out last season.

AFAIR only the team-wide catch up XP was removed, it's still on jungle camps

Hethalean1 votes

Ahh, I couldn't remember exactly.

Spoofghoul1 votes

Yep that is why they setup a tent in your lane and just sit there for 10 minutes straight

Because the enemy laner is now shut down since he couldn't get xp or gold for 10 minutes meanwhile mr jungler has a way to catch up

EndlessSorcerer7 votes

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If it's going to hit the turret or nobody is coming to get it, it's fine. Waves spawn quickly, and need to be pushed out.

Jungle camps take a long time to respawn, and the jungle gets significantly increased EXP from them (especially if they're behind).

Provided the jungler either freezes or resets the wave properly after farming it.

I've seen far too many junglers deny their own laners through improper wave control.

ReshiKillim7 votes

It's especially nasty when you're playing Evelynn, given how farming the jungle is already hard enough when you're playing her, since most other junglers have significantly faster clears than her, and you have horrible waveclear so you can't go and farm CS from lanes.

~A slightly salty Eve player.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Preach.

Rexxiee6 votes

Yeah but junglers walk over everyone pre-20, so unless they get hard nerfed early game they cannot have scaling.

ampheon1 votes

Tank junglers scale pretty well into late game, unless you're only referring to damage scaling, but then there's yi.

Yenn2 votes

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Yeah but junglers walk over everyone pre-20, so unless they get hard nerfed early game they cannot have scaling.

This isn't about scaling, it's about starvation. Most jungles inherently don't scale into the late game, regardless.

Xerath Aim Bot2 votes

Careful, theres a Jungle OP circle jerk around these parts.

Couffe1 votes

Once it's past 20 minutes don't expect your camps to be up. The laners love the jg more than their own lane. Even if more gold is bot they go for gromp. Really annoying but have to deal with it

Salson1 votes

Ideally camps would have faster respawn timers. That way, Junglers can gank less in the early game and actually have an income in late game.

koshkyra1 votes

..no

the adc and support clear mid, the jungler clears top/bot and his jungle, and the toplaner splits bot/top while the mid is farm starved and has nowhere to go

at least thats what i see happening in literally every game

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