Why is Youmuu's Ghostblade getting nerfed?

Tomosima·Oct 24, 2016·1 votes·1,692 views

Its losing 40% attack speed for 20 movement speed out of combat? This isnt a change to make it less viable on ranged this is a straight up nerf to the item. Just make it melee only and leave the item alone.

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Critmaster GarenOct 24, 20163 votes

so it becomes less strong on marksmen.

assassins dont care as much about the attack speed, since most of them are based around quick spell chains.

TomosimaOct 24, 20161 votes

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so it becomes less strong on marksmen.

assassins dont care as much about the attack speed, since most of them are based around quick spell chains.

Not really some junglers use the attack speed on it like Vi and Yi nerfing the item like this is just lazy

GiveMeUrMilkOct 24, 20162 votes

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Not really some junglers use the attack speed on it like Vi and Yi nerfing the item like this is just lazy

Errr, Vi should never be popping youmuus for the AS boost. You just want the MS part of the active so that you are guaranteed to catch the squishy.

Realistically, Vi is only going to get off maybe 1 auto on you with her standard build. Q>auto>E procs Thudnerlords if you're running it. Also does a large amount of damage and applies denting blows. You don't auto people to death as Vi.

The reason Gjostblade is good on her is the MS of the active and the armor pen which when added to denting blows does even more damage. She could care less about the attack speed.

And yes, it is losing that attack speed. But it is still good on those junglers. 20 out of combat MS helps you move around the map faster for quicker ganks and clears. It's new active also helps those junglers when they dive in on ADC or Fighters that rely on AAs.

RalanrOct 24, 20161 votes

Vi and Yi aren't assassins.

GiveMeUrMilkOct 24, 20161 votes

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Vi and Yi aren't assassins.

Nah, Vi is a diver and Yi is a skirmisher. Both benefit from the item though. Even with the changes. Youmu's won't be limited to just assassins. It won;t be as good on everyone it was good on before the changes. But it will still work with a good portion of them.

I personally won't be building ghostblade on Vi after the changes, but that doesn't mean it couldn't work.

RequiemsfireOct 24, 20163 votes

because assassins don't really need attack speed.

ThePikolOct 24, 20161 votes

I would do this other way. Remove arm pen and leave everything there was, so ADC would have second item with AD and AS (on active) and the same time wouldn't be overused by Jhin, MF and Lucian. Don't get me wrong, but there are a lot of armor pen items and only 1-2 with both AD and AS. Also I'm scared Twitch will be super weak after Youmu change since it's core on him.

OleandervineOct 24, 20161 votes

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I would do this other way. Remove arm pen and leave everything there was, so ADC would have second item with AD and AS (on active) and the same time wouldn't be overused by Jhin, MF and Lucian. Don't get me wrong, but there are a lot of armor pen items and only 1-2 with both AD and AS. Also I'm scared Twitch will be super weak after Youmu change since it's core on him.

Twitch never used it before it became overused, so I don't see why he won't be just as he was before it became staple in every AD champ.