Revert Evelynn riot, please? (Rengar related)

Joetri10·Jan 24, 2018·5 votes·832 views

As one who played League for a while only for Evelynn and loved the champion beyond bounds. I was sad to see the champion get reworked into one that isn't even remotely similar. Seeing as Rengar has essentially been entirely reverted and on the PBE, it shows that you riot, are willing and able to redo your mistakes.

Evelynn has seen a lot of play since the rework, and she's so potent that she's actually getting nerfed. Now, assassins are pretty cookie cutter; you can either have an assassin be forever strong (Zed, Talon) or forever weak (Leblanc, Kayn) or the champions that are meta driven and it's basically a coin flip on patch day (Ekko, Kha'Zix, Fizz)

Instead of blindly nerfing her damage; because lets face it, her damage isn't exactly what's making her strong, you revert her back to the state she was in before because she was perfectly fine. She was a champ who either was godlike or sucked depending on the player alone in even reach of the elo.

Her visuals can remain, just the kit has to come back. I don't speak for the whole Evelynn community but i have in my gut that anyone who was an oldschool Evelynn main/fan, simply do not like playing her anymore, and instead she's just played right now for the meta gains.

Please riot, if you can redo Rengar, you can redo Evelynn.. A champion that only really needed a touch up on her ult at best... Not the unrecognizable champ of today.

10 Comments

SaturnSC1Jan 24, 20182 votes

Old Evelynn was trash and it was just boring to play. New Evelynn is 100x better, stop complain an adapt.

Joetri10Jan 24, 20184 votes

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Old Evelynn was trash and it was just boring to play. New Evelynn is 100x better, stop complain an adapt.

You might have found her boring but her dedicated fanbase loved her. She was insanely fun to play and extremely strong when you knew exactly how to play her. Her play and win rate in high Elo Korea months before the rework show for it. She was a great, solid and balanced pick. There is no adapt, she is simply not who we loved playing as. After all, you would never read a different book just because it had the same title.

SaturnSC1Jan 24, 20181 votes

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You might have found her boring but her dedicated fanbase loved her. She was insanely fun to play and extremely strong when you knew exactly how to play her. Her play and win rate in high Elo Korea months before the rework show for it. She was a great, solid and balanced pick. There is no adapt, she is simply not who we loved playing as.

And like many other champion, like Swain, Galio, Warwick and so on.. They all had to adapt, so whatever you say it won't change, hell Rengar revert might be temporary if they see it's back to toxic status for the community. It's not even 100% to come back. So stop complain like a kid and play New eve or change champion, period.

Joetri10Jan 24, 20182 votes

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And like many other champion, like Swain, Galio, Warwick and so on.. They all had to adapt, so whatever you say it won't change, hell Rengar revert might be temporary if they see it's back to toxic status for the community. It's not even 100% to come back. So stop complain like a kid and play New eve or change champion, period.

Warwick is close enough to his old kit that it remains familiar. it was a quality of life update. Galio is more or less the same but overloaded. Swain is looking beyond dangerous however. he is another champion that looks pretty unrecognizable, but his ult remains the same-ish. This might not be ok either.

Evelynn however, only has her stealth the same, and that's only after 6. Her first half of her q is unnecessary outside of the charm hit, which was never needed at all.

3 of her 5 abilities are entirely different, and the other 2 are altered unnecessarily, it's not a matter of adapting because it's essentially a new champion. You could reskin it and no would really know or care for the difference.

Icy Hot ShotoJan 24, 20181 votes

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Warwick is close enough to his old kit that it remains familiar. it was a quality of life update.

I'm sorry, he's what? No he's not. Far from it. Did old Warick have a fear? No. Did old Warwick's q put him infront of his enemy? No. Was his ult a skillshot? Hell no.

Warwick's old passive: Eternal Thirst: Warwick's basic attacks deal 3 - 16 (based on level) bonus magic damage, healing him for the same amount (stacks up to 「 3 times 」 per target and persists for 4 seconds)

New passive; Eternal Thirst: INNATE: Warwick's basic attacks deal 10 - 44 (based on level) bonus magic damage on-hit.

While below 50% maximum health, Warwick's basic attacks also heal him for the same amount, with the healing tripled to 30 - 132 (based on level) while below 25% maximum health.

Quite a difference there, seeing as now you have to be below 50% health to get the healing.

Oh, and not to mention he now smells blood. Meaning, if you're below a certain amount of health (50%), then he gains a movement speed buff towards you. A buff that can increase the range of his ult.

He also no longer strengthens his allies. Instead he reduces damage dealt, and then fears enemies within the range. Warwick had never had a fear. So that entire thing is pretty different.

And, once again, his ult is a skillshot. A tiny as all hell skillshot even though he has a large-ish body.

So how is he close enough as old Warick? Please, do elaborate because I'm quite lost on you there.

Joetri10Jan 24, 20181 votes

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I'm sorry, he's what? No he's not. Far from it. Did old Warick have a fear? No. Did old Warwick's q put him infront of his enemy? No. Was his ult a skillshot? Hell no.

Warwick's old passive: Eternal Thirst: Warwick's basic attacks deal 3 - 16 (based on level) bonus magic damage, healing him for the same amount (stacks up to 「 3 times 」 per target and persists for 4 seconds)

New passive; Eternal Thirst: INNATE: Warwick's basic attacks deal 10 - 44 (based on level) bonus magic damage on-hit.

While below 50% maximum health, Warwick's basic attacks also heal him for the same amount, with the healing tripled to 30 - 132 (based on level) while below 25% maximum health.

Quite a difference there, seeing as now you have to be below 50% health to get the healing.

Oh, and not to mention he now smells blood. Meaning, if you're below a certain amount of health (50%), then he gains a movement speed buff towards you. A buff that can increase the range of his ult.

He also no longer strengthens his allies. Instead he reduces damage dealt, and then fears enemies within the range. Warwick had never had a fear. So that entire thing is pretty different.

And, once again, his ult is a skillshot. A tiny as all hell skillshot even though he has a large-ish body.

So how is he close enough as old Warick? Please, do elaborate because I'm quite lost on you there.

His passive is the same, only better (quality of life) His Q was a quick target hit spell that healed, its now also a positioning tool (QOL) His w is now Incorporated into his passive, but lost the team buff (he's a ganker after all) His e still shows enemies on the map and gains movement speed, it's just been re-designed (QOL) His ult is still a suppression cc tool that has life steal and magic damage. Only now it's a skill shot to allow some mobility (QOL) The only thing new is his fear which was generally needed for his style of gameplay.

Aside from the fear, everything else is just a better version of his former spells, He is the same.

MayobeJan 24, 20182 votes

Bring back season 1 Eve.

PopcornBunniJan 24, 20182 votes

Not sure why this is getting so many down votes.

At the least have her enhanced E proc multiple on-hit effects and add in AD scaling. One of her biggest draws before was she could adapt her build to take out whatever the highest priority target was at the time. Now she's just another AP assassin whoa also happens to be in an impossible to balance state as long as she has a long-lasting hard cc from stealth with no indicator until that cc is already fully primed.

As long as that charm and the arrow associated with it remain as they are, Evelynn's current design is going to be even more imbalanced than her previous version. She'll either be one of the worst characters in the game (like she was before Masteries Renamed) or OP with no meaningful counterplay (you know, like she is currently).

There's no middle ground when you have a character based around a point-click hard cc from stealth.

Dr BigbiteJan 26, 20182 votes

True i miss her so much before i played her everyday and that was so cool now everytime i play this new eve it s a bad moment i dont know why just my feeling but riot will not revert her or maybe in 2/3 years so cya guys xd have fun

BattleToiletJan 28, 20181 votes

AMEN BROTHER. I completely agree, Evelynn was butchered and there was no need to change her into this abomination.

As someone playing LoL for 5 years , only beginner occasional AP Evelyn's didn't mind the change because they were bad at it originally so they can't tell any difference.

For them it's just build AP spam buttons then move on. Same same.

For the rest of us who are the core fan base it was the most bizarre thing to see. Clearly the revision was done by a team that either had no understanding at all of anything or hated Eve or both.

As afforementioned by Joe, it actually took a lot of practise and fine tuning to do well with Eve, skill based performance. The most perfect champ imo. Unlimited build combinations and strategy. CANT HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE.

When i heard of the remake i said great how exciting.

But as often happens in life you're left wondering, what planet do these people come from that make these decisions.

My answer came when i learnt that varus' lore is two gay men fused with a demon.

Then i noticed new eve says " let Evelynn take over" subtly pushing demonic posession.

My conclusion is that riot is over-run by liberals.

REVERT EVELYNN.

Admit it was a experiment gone wrong. You have the statistics, no one plays her except the occasional curious player who wants to try her out then dry reach.

Maybe you could have two Evelynns to choose from like other games example street fighter where you can use evil Ryu or normal Ryu. Problem solved. mor