It feels so horrible to play Darius.

Monstermushmush··1 votes·1,275 views

They just kite you around all day. Just wanted to put it out there. I don't know what I'm trying to accomplish with this post.

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Daddy Ants2 votes

Oh no..

The intended counterplay to Juggernauts like Darius!1

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

He's got nothing but buffs for the last couple of patches.

His last "real" nerf was back in 7.2.

Guy gets so much free Armor Pen nowadays that he doesn't even need to buy Black Cleaver anymore and just goes straight for Trinity Force.

Moody P1 votes

Complete nothing buffs don't matter in a real argument on balance

Darius is mediocre with a play rate propped up by the promise of his dunk popoffs

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9uaIg1sA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-12-17T13:07:13.965+0000)

Complete nothing buffs don't matter in a real argument on balance

You're right, it doesn't.

Darius is mediocre with a play rate propped up by the promise of his dunk popoffs

I just really have to wonder what it is that makes him so mediocre.

Yes, you can say it's his lack of mobility and kiteability, but every (good) Darius picks up Ghost and usually buys either Dead Man's or Righteous Glory (sometimes both) so I don't see the problem. I don't know if Phase Rush is still picked, Dark Harvest sounds really good on him (on paper of course).

Moody P1 votes

Mage and burst meta

Almost all juggernauts vanish from play in mage meta, only exception being Aatrox who is basically half assassin

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9uaIg1sA,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-17T13:14:29.669+0000)

Mage and burst meta

Almost all juggernauts vanish from play in mage meta, only exception being Aatrox who is basically half assassin

But what is it about Mages that cancels out Darius?

Moody P1 votes

range, cc, burst

Mages being mages

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9uaIg1sA,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-17T13:22:41.676+0000)

range,

Range leads into his kiteability, which shouldn't be a problem if the Darius player does the aforementioned things.

cc, burst

Both of these are countered by the combined purchase of item 3111 + item 3053 (+ item 2138 )

Really, if all Darius players just:

  1. Have a build consisting of item 3078 item 3742 item 3800 item 3053 item 3065 item 3111 (+ item 2138 )

  2. Take summoner 6 & summoner 4

  3. Pick up Phase Rush, Celerity, and Legend: Tenacity.

...Darius shouldn't have any problem at all.

He'll be mobile, not be that vulnerable to cc, can survive burst, and still deal decent amounts of damage.

Keyword here being shouldn't, because that is apparently not the case.

l love Ahri1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9uaIg1sA,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-17T13:17:56.789+0000)

But what is it about Mages that cancels out Darius?

They outrange Darius and has CC. Yikes.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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They outrange Darius and has CC. Yikes.

Well duh, I know why they counter him, but I do not see how they completely negate him.

l love Ahri1 votes

That's basically... His counter? Wtf

Cats Are Food1 votes

Mobility was wayyyyy lower when he was released.

Cats Are Food1 votes

Try being in love with Morde

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