more so than LB, fizz, or zoe shaco should be the model trickster champ. right now he is pretty boring because he is AA based. even when he ults he just uses it for extra DPS more so than trying to outplay someone. sure you can try to outplay with clone, but at the end of the day its just a 50/50 coin flip if it works or not.
Śhunpo4 votesJust revert him. Literally, just revert him. Before his rework he was the trickster champ, and I don't quite think Shaco players had any quarrels regarding his previous kit. In terms of balance, before his rework he wasn't strong, but he wasn't awful either, he was just good, whereas nowadays he's a balance problem since the moment he gets items he just pops everyone.
Oh, and before his rework his E actually did damage and you could actually go AP without being shafted due to it dealing MAGIC damage. Now it does physical damage, meaning it won't be affected by magic pen., only lethality, meaning AP Shaco still has to go AD to do any damage with E, which in that case; why didn't you go AD in the first place?
tl;dr Revert him.
JeaneGreene2 votesHe was actually an extremely healthy assassin, who, if they wanted to kill you, had to dance around and stick onto a target to deal the damage, unlike now.
Gildarzt1 votesYou can't revert right now.
p a t r i o t3 votesI must be the only person who doesn't care as much about the trickster aspect of Shaco. I started playing him for his reputation of being a terrifying champion who everyone was afraid to see. I think its more fun to stab the shit out of people than it is to lead them around boxes.
Moody P2 votesshaco will undoubtedly still be AA based after any rework he gets, too
lolipopevelynn1 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9pB2kBaj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-17T18:08:18.721+0000)
shaco will undoubtedly still be AA based after any rework he gets, too
thats fine, but he needs more depth than waiting for an absolute vegetable to follow him into a unwarded bush filled with boxes.
Moody P3 voteshis boxes barely even matter right now which is the problem
Shaco's kit has been shafted repeatedly and he's entirely item reliant. What COULD be a very interesting assassin just turns into a guy who Qs in, pops ult and then double-procs you with 
and dark harvest + his clone applying Duskblade too
it's embarrassing how riot has handled him
Blackii71 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9pB2kBaj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-17T18:08:18.721+0000)
shaco will undoubtedly still be AA based after any rework he gets, too
That didn't happen to Aatrox, so i wouldn't be so sure.
Moody P2 votesThe aatrox rework was garbage so I doubt riot wants to open that can again
Blackii71 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9pB2kBaj,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-18T15:47:52.717+0000)
The aatrox rework was garbage so I doubt riot wants to open that can again
But riot are very happy with it. 100% Pick/ban in pro-play And now every single toplaner plays him.
Pika Fox2 votesShacos box play is really fun. I do wish theyd nerf multiple W traps and buff singles so you didnt have to balance around 15 boxes in a bush lololol and feel it would be more fun playing around proper setup and guiding the enemy around through an area like teemo.
His Q, E and R do feel like they could use some love in that department. Especially his R death boxes... Kill 1 all 3 die half the time it really does nothing.
Id also love to see him taken away from being AA ish based, but idk how. I definitely would love to see his burst lowered in favor of more trickster playstyle though. Box play feels kinda pointless when your entire thing is "Q in, auto, E , ignite". I want W to be the main thing, not a backup.
L Psy Kongroo2 votesI think it would be neat if Shaco could hide inside his boxes, then leap out at people when they get close. Would make them more useful in the mid-late game beyond a simple fear proc.
Lux Is Mai Waifu2 votesdon't worry, they'll probably preserve his invisibility move while making the jack in the boxes act as a mini windwall, give him a shield that refreshes when he moves, a charm, a nuke, a 3 second stun, and the clone will spawn for the original an area of invisibility/untargetability for 15 secs
Hayaishi21 votesMight wanna give him some counterplay too.
Fízz v21 votesfizz is literally called "tidal trickster" tho monkaS
Fear the Kayn1 votesTwo defintions of trick m8:
Physical tricks (like jumping and balancing on a trident like Fizz does)
Mental tricks (using mental games like magicians, or in this case Shaco 'disappears' )
Eleshakai1 votesya he should be so tricky.... that you can't even find him in your games at all.
Blue Moon Wolf1 votessure you can try to outplay with clone, but at the end of the day its just a 50/50 coin flip if it works or not.
Laughs in Wukong 1.5 second unmoving clone
if Shaco's is a 50/50 coin flip, I'd hate to see what Wukong's odds are. Especially when he's got a tell that will let you know if he's a clone or not.
Fear the Kayn2 votesWukong can play some mind games though by standing still, making people think he's a clone.
Śhunpo2 votesStanding still and then doing a jerky rotation that leads people to believe that you W'd.
Sharpest glasses1 votesthen you reach plat and it dosnt work anymore.
Śhunpo1 votesYep. This is true.
Blue Moon Wolf2 votesand shaco can play mind games by Ulting in a bush and having the decoy attack, having his decoy and himself attack at the same time, have his decoy chase after one target hard to fool people into thinking that's the real one while he goes after his real target, he can stealth and decoy at the same time to make people think the decoy is still the real one and the list can keep going. Wukong can stop... and hope the enemy doesn't realize he faked it... which can be very obvious if you know what to look for... what's your point?
BiasZebra2 votesDo the worm dance so your clone does it too and then move the clone around. Nothing better than a slithering jester.
Blue Moon Wolf1 votesthank you for expanding upon my point.
Sharpest glasses2 votesits not coin flip in Wukong case... the champ is so weak and his decoy is so predictable. Don't waste your lp on this champ (sadly).
Gilgayu1 votesap shaco is still a "tricky champ" Much harder to play, though
james2k21 votesshaco is a cancer champ