Counterplay? WTF IS COUNTERPLAY!? OH GOD DODGE THE THINGS

Bears Dont Care··6 votes·508 views

Counterplay, counter play, Shyvana lacks counter play, Master Yi lacks counter play, Fiora lacks it, and Warwick lacks it.

Wait wait...why though? TO answer why, you need to know what is counterplay.

What is counterplay? Well, to put it in simple terms, it would be playing rock against scissors, or scissors against paper. Counterplay is anything a player does, to prevent, or reduce the abilities of an enemy player.

For example, one way of countering a champion such as Xerath?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kvS6zMThiZU/hqdefault.jpg

The problem comes, however, when dodging becomes the only form of counterplay the community considers as valid. No seriously, let's think about it.

EXAMPLE TIME! One of the worst champions in terms of gameplay, Warwick.

What is one of the largest complaints you hear about him? "OMFG HIS ULT IS SO OP! IT SUPPRESSES ME AND I CANNOT DO ANYTHING! HE LACKS COUNTERPLAY!"

Well...no...let us consider a few things.

The range on Warwick's ult is 700 range. Stay out of range.

That is counterplay, because Warwick is a melee champ whose only ranged ability is his suppression. By respecting the range on his ult, you invalidate him.

An alternative? Have another champion present who can CC Warwick when he blinks you. Why is this effective? His ultimate is a CHANNEL. The damage needs time to go through in order for it to be effective.

This...is also counterplay.

Counterplay doesn't mean playing a great game of dodgeball.

Are people wrong for thinking it should be? Yes. People need to be more open minded regarding the game and not believe they always need to have a chance to "dodge" any ability in the game.

Is it natural for them to think this way? Yes. Human beings are largely affected by what they can see. Being able to see the Xerath laser beam?
It makes the counterplay more apparent than Yi rushing in and slicing you up to pieces.

tl;dr: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kvS6zMThiZU/hqdefault.jpg

Is not the only form of counterplay.

Sometimes....item 3362 is counterplay to a champion.

7 Comments

Revali5 votes

item 3362 doesn't exist anymore

redniwediS3 votes

Master Yi lacks counterplay?

item 3071 Garen item 3075

Justice doesn't care.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

How does Fiora lack counterplay?

Fanny Forecast1 votes

He explained it when he talked about WW later on. They all have counterplay it's just not as simple as "dodge the skillshot". Takes a lot more though process, something a lot of the community obviously lacks.

redniwediS2 votes

Read the post. He's not saying these champions don't have counterplay, he's saying we need to take the time to recognize what actually is counterplay and what isn't.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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I forget, examples are taken as the main point of a discussion, rather than the examples they are meant to be.

Essentially, I am stating people do not understand what counterplay actually is at this point. It is worrying because Riot is reflecting these ideals.

The flash bear drop. Annie’s bread-and-butter burst combo is a threatening affair that’s more about skirting the edges of Annie’s range than dodging a skillshot.

The idea that skirting the range of a champion reflects less counterplay than champions with a skillshot is poor ideology. It is a reflection of the communities immature thought process solely focused on how they are impacted by another's play, rather than how the champion's gameplay impacts all things as a whole.

Sasogwa1 votes

Some champions are also heavily countered by some items (QSS for WW/Malz, Zhonya for Zed etc.) I dislike the fact that because people are too greedy to counterbuild their opponents, they complain about lack of counterplay.

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