Daily reminder to gut Shaco
Shaco is cancer and should be deleted from this game. No counterplay in his kit whatsoever.
Shaco is cancer and should be deleted from this game. No counterplay in his kit whatsoever.
AP or AD Shaco, because both are very different.
your main must be deleted as well
your account also should be removed if you wanna be that toxic for literally no reason
So based on my opinion over a fictional character you attack me personally, yet I am the toxic one?
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AP or AD Shaco, because both are very different.
It doesn't even matter what he builds. His entire kit is toxic.
What exactly is toxic? As far as I know, the only thing with no counterplay is his E. His clone is easy to figure out if you do a lot of damage to "Shaco" for no reason.
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What exactly is toxic? As far as I know, the only thing with no counterplay is his E. His clone is easy to figure out if you do a lot of damage to "Shaco" for no reason.
Q is targeted (auto attack enhancer), there's no longer a counter to stealth, and it being a flash + invisibility (which is incredibly disorienting) doesn't really have any counterplay. You just gotta realize that if Shaco hasn't used his Q yet, he's gonna get away. It's frustrating, but it's the truth.
W is just toxic against divers. You literally can't go in on him, but that's the only thing a diver can do.
See, THAT'S what this post should be. Not some bandwagon garbage.
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See, THAT'S what this post should be. Not some bandwagon garbage.
I do my best.
stop shitposting pls
Why so serious?
Passive: If you can't fight Shaco, just give up because running means you die faster.
Q: Control wards mean nothing. He'll gank you all the same and you won't know until he gets at least one free hit off on you. Good luck killing him too. Unless you keep him perma CCd he's just gonna Q away, maybe even over a wall and you'll have no chance to interrupt it or give yourself longer to kill them like with Eve and Twitch. You can get an Oracle's Alteration, but that'll only help with chasing him down. Oracle's won't do you much good when you don't even know there's a Shaco sneaking up on you to reveal. By the time he's in range to reveal, he's in range to E anyways.
W: Who doesn't like having to fill as much of the jungle as possible with control wards and still end up sticking to lane? Who doesn't like having to have oracle's or dusk blade up to make sure you don't trip a jack in the box? If you do though, have fun being hard CCd instantly by a trap out of stealth while it unloads massive damage into your raw buttocks? By the way, Shaco can drop this at your feet when ganking so HE gets the near instant hard CC from stealth. Or he could drop it in his tracks while running away! You know, since he doesn't already have a near guaranteed escape move. So he has this to block off his escape route.
E: Yeah so running is not only dangerous thanks to his passive, but useless thanks to his E. As for the active, imagine something along the lines of if Veigar had stealth. He can just point and click nuke you with no warning whatsoever, and from a decent range. Point and click, big damage abilities are already a little painful to go up against, but those from invisibility are just too much. If he's in range to be revealed by your Oracle's, he's practically already in range to nuke you.
R: His ult is annoying and tricky to deal with unless you have range. If you're melee your option is to kinda run from it or take the damage from its auto attacks until it dies, because killing it means ow. That kinda interaction is frustrating, but this ability is probably the most fair one on his kit. If you mess up and target his clone, it's because you failed to identify the tells or their Shaco knows how to pilot that thing like a god.
I think that explains why I REALLY want to see Shaco get a VGU. His kit isn't just getting old, it's a nightmare to play against while he's ahead unless you want to sacrifice a lot of your freedom so you don't get screwed. I love his theme too, and I think he could be a work of art, which is also why I want to see an update. His current kit though... I get PTSD from games played against him as non tank supports. I shouldn't say that, I couldn't survive his ganks even as a Tahm with 3 complete items and upgraded boots. T _ T
If Spankle became the RIots balancing director. Passive> OMG his passive gives him 10 to 20 extra dmg earlygame, while making any crit rate he builds worth less 30 or 40% less. Q> OMG I dont see a puff of smoke because i am tunnelvisioning on my enemy, i mean its not like its red and sticks out even in the FOW and is red so it is perfectly seeable on the greenish map.Ohh wait it is. W> WTF is this? A box that can be destroyed by 1 AD autoattack or 1 AP abbility, that can be dodged, that does little to no dmg unless shaco builds full Ap and lets not forget that 16 seconds for a basic abbility? Ok we need to nerf it guys. So lets add a time for it to arm up, and lets make it reveal Shaco when he puts it. Ohh it does that already. Its ok lets delete this abbility completely whatsoever, because Shaco is to toxic champ. E> It does Veigar dmg lv1. So fuking hard omg,omg. Wait i didnt check to see that it has 10 base dmg lv1. Oh Shaco will max it for the 20 dmg per level, its not like his Q needs to be maxed out in order for him to have a decent stealth. R>OMG how do i tell the real one from fake its not like i can just click on it and see. And lets not forget how OP the clone is with his reduced dmg and increased vunerability. Fuking broken abbility needs a nerf 10/10.
Ok next topic we need to buff Yasuo. I suggest we give him 100% critrate lv 1 and 50 extra ad per level. [slayer-jinx-unamused]
You seem upset.
To really counter Shaco, you must learn what his basic kit is, and adapt to avoid the hell out of it. You can see is Deceive cloud even through the fog of war, don't keep your back to him, and if you play a champ that can easially show off who's the real shaco when he uses his R (
can see his vitals with her R, the clone has none and
with his W on can smell out the real shaco even when invisible!) even more benefits for you.
I agree. Nerf invis . shaco ; Eve