What if Darius could stun enemies with his W if they had 3 or more stacks of his passive?

IsIsGankedParis··2 votes·513 views

The stun would scale from 1 second all the way to 1.5 seconds.

In order to not make him have a perma stun, his W reduces by .75 seconds each bleed stack instead of 1 second, meaning at 5 stacks that's 1.25 seconds lost.

Thoughts? Too much?

17 Comments

Irelia Bot2 votes

Darius can not be buffed because he is already really oppressive against most melee champs.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Darius can not be buffed because he is already really oppressive against most champs.

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IsIsGankedParis2 votes

He can be buffed, just needs little buffs to his late game, perhaps this buff I just proposed isn't really HELPFUL as he becomes worse to lane against, but he can't jump on you, he relies on you being dumb enough to get in range, or he pulls you in and FORBID you have 0 escapes/cc to get away from him.

Idk, I try to propose late game buffs but get told hes op in lane which is all he really has, be strong in lane and do nothing afterwards besides ks.

Thanotos Omega1 votes

Which is why when they get a chance he's gonna get reworked, they admit he was a bad idea.

Stiv12341 votes

Why would you buff a lane bully's late game? Darius is supposed to be underwhelming in late. If you wanted to balance him out, you would have to harshly nerf his Q damage or mana cost.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

He is already a very big threat against a lot of melee champs. The actual problem with him is his immobility & his unfixed W bug. (which is atk speed never applying)

Toothless Lion1 votes

Darius is fine. He'd get nerfed immediately if they did this.

DropFill1 votes

Darius needs a higher hook range. Right now, it is nearly impossible for him to reach adc's such as kalista, jinx, cait, kog, etc

Thanotos Omega1 votes

He's not supposed to, Darius was created with the understanding he would be very Binary, Crush Melee get Crushed by range, it's why he's on the low deck for a rework,

IsIsGankedParis2 votes

His rework got cancelled, Meddler said they would rather buff him than rework him, if you want the source I'll look for it real quick.

Thanotos Omega1 votes

That one did, they are still going to later, he's the worst designed champion in the 6300 price bracket, can't be to strong because he will make all Melee champs pointless but needs to be able to deal with Kiting, he needs a rework, probably loose his strait up dueling power for hit and run tactics letting bleed where them down then moving in while their weak, fits a Noxus champion better anyway.

NemeBro1 votes

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That one did, they are still going to later, he's the worst designed champion in the 6300 price bracket, can't be to strong because he will make all Melee champs pointless but needs to be able to deal with Kiting, he needs a rework, probably loose his strait up dueling power for hit and run tactics letting bleed where them down then moving in while their weak, fits a Noxus champion better anyway.

How would a champion whose backstory has him executing a commanding officer for trying to make a tactical retreat instead of manning up and fighting a grueling slugfest being made into a hit and run sissyboy like Ekko make more sense?

The idea that Darius gets shit on by all ranged and shits on all melee champions is crap. One of Darius' easier matchups is Gnar, and one of his more difficult ones is Fiora, with Garen being the manliest of skill matchups.

I don't feel his W needs a stun. It just needs to apply the fucking attack speed slow, lol.

Thanotos Omega1 votes

Noxus is like the Klingons you just call it strength and honor and it is, It's Like Zaun and it's freedom, yeah as long as your rich and connected your 100% free everyone else is just lucky to avoid being used as a test subject.

ZACKandATTACK1 votes

His damage numbers would need to be nerved then. Not a worth change.

FooDang1 votes

Too much...

SEKAI1 votes

That makes no sense thematically, since

  1. To choose between chopping and bashing, he would always go for the the former.
  2. Bleed doesn't really translate to stun.

Balance wise it won't work too, seeing he is already a lane bully I am sure Riot isn't out to make people suicide over games.

arc951 votes

You would have to nerf him quite a bit especially in his early game if they wanted to do that... personally i think if they game him a stun with his current kit he would probably be the the strongest lane bully to ever walk the rift

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