Phase Rush has fundamentally failed on every level of its intended design

waiting for WoW·2/6/2018, 8:23:58 PM·41 votes·6,768 views

Riot's intended purpose for implenting the 3-hit proc from 30% max HP damage: "We wanted this keystone to be more accessible to bruisers, especially early game, and 3-hit proc was more consistent than 30% max HP damage. The 30% max HP damage made this rune rare to take on the old system."

The actual reality: SRS was already accessible to a number of melee champions and bruisers in both the laning phase and late game. The 3-hit proc has made this keystone completely undesirable to a number of melee champions that used to take it. SRS was an insanely popular keystone.

Riot's intended design for undertuning the numbers on Phase Rush: "We think this keystone has a lot of late game strength, and since we made it so much easier to proc earlier(not really) we're going to make a late game scaling rune."

The actual reality: Phase Rush is SLIGHTLY easier and more predictable to proc earlier in the game but it's late game is actually a LOT worse than SRS. You could easily proc SRS with 1-2 abilities by late game and it had a lower cooldown of 10 seconds. Now it doesn't matter how fed you are, or how many levels up you are, you are forced onto a 3-hit mechanic as any champion(this is especially annoying as a melee champion or a mage like Vladimir though).

Another part of Riot's intended design for keeping the numbers on Phase Rush low: "We wanted this to be viable for bruisers and melee champions without it being too strong on ranged champions and being forced to simply balance it around mages."

The actual reality: This keystone is virtually non-existent in the game except for 2-3 champions who regularly take it and only because they actually no better option(and they all happen to be ranged). They put the numbers so low to the point where virtually no melee are ever willing to take it above actual decent keystones like Kleptomany or Grasp Of The Undying.

48 Comments

CleverCactus2/6/2018, 10:28:23 PM12 votes

Phase rush was a flat out nerf in every aspect of Stormraiders Surge. If it wasn't their goal to simply nerf Stormraiders Surge, I'm surprised.

Bjørnetjenesten2/6/2018, 10:28:37 PM7 votes

It wasnt really designed for bruisers though.

Why do you think its called the "sorcery tree"? It was made for Low range battle mages, so they arent forced into aery and comet. I think its perfectly fine on Cassiopeia or AurelionSol or the new Swain. Its not a generalist keystone like aery or comet. Its designed for very specific purpose.

Andrionar2/7/2018, 10:01:44 AM7 votes

Why just not to accept that phase rush was a fail and bring back stormraiders surge? They changed it anyway only because for a sake of changes...

Edited: wow, im actualy getting downvoted for telling the truth. No one even takes phase rush, why? Because it sucks. And please argument before downvoting

Jofeyy2/7/2018, 7:03:31 PM3 votes

Yeah... The three unique abilities proc made it gross af to use :\

Recuro2/7/2018, 8:20:37 AM3 votes

I disagree, I like phase rush much better. In fact before it was even announced I wanted stormraider's to be changed to the 3 hit paradigm. With stormraider's I never knew when it would proc therefore it was really hard to take advantage of (which was only made worse because it's old animation was really hard to notice). Whenever I tried stormraider's I would go entire games unsure whether or not it had even proc'd at all. Plus it was pretty limited to burst champs as well as being potentially useless against tanks.

I've had some fun using phase rush on mages as well as assassins. I also see it often on the likes of Darius and Nasus. Overall I'm pretty happy with phase rush in general.

Colton1472/6/2018, 11:30:48 PM3 votes

TahmKench

Iffy Jarl2/7/2018, 6:27:39 AM2 votes

Don't u just have to fit another auto in

Kaeblen2/7/2018, 4:41:03 AM2 votes

Wait... a 3-hit passive is used to proc it, but it's indented for melee users?

I never considered the rune even remotely viable on my own favorite champions, so I never realized how stupid that was.

CyberBalt2/7/2018, 5:54:05 PM1 votes

Stormraiders was so much better in every way; slightly harder to proc, but much more impactful. I really think they should just revert back to it, it was probably the most well designed rune in the old system.

chipndip12/7/2018, 6:23:50 PM1 votes

I mean, making the claim that SRS was insanely popular is overstating things hardcore, but Phase Rush IS a glorified popularity nerf.

Mimr2/7/2018, 10:57:38 PM1 votes

I actually like it on Hecarim, makes it easier to stick to people (I don't take Predator because I never have problems to reach them but Hecarim lacks ways to stick to people once he has initiated) and gives you a nice AD boost as a bonus.

Sire Hippington2/8/2018, 2:09:13 AM1 votes

To be honest, the only melee i can think of that would go SRS but can't proc ohase rush reliably is garen. The issue of phaserush isn't the 3 hit proc, that part imo is actually great, it makes it alot more reliable and consistent overall.

There are two big issues for phase rush right now:

  • it's numbers are to low, the speedbuff just doesn't cut it early on and even later it's not that great for it's conditions and uptime, atleast on melees.
  • The raw combat power gained from other sources is just to damn powerfull. Why would i want a speedboost after 3 hits if i can kill after 3 hits with elecro cute?

That beeing said, i think they could take a look on what counts as 'unique hit' and try to help out some champs like garen that struggle alot useing it(or electrocute)

Emerald Fang2/9/2018, 5:39:06 AM1 votes

It's good on Cassiopeia and sometimes Ahri maybe. It's not horrible, but could use a tweak.

Namitu2/7/2018, 1:52:34 AM1 votes

yeah just fuckin bring back SRS, phase rush is SHIT.

HungryAngry2SPP2/6/2018, 11:20:20 PM1 votes

Garen RIP FAST BOI

yoshi27902/7/2018, 12:52:07 PM1 votes

Honestly it sucks most for Vladimir, he used to take stormraiders surge frequently and now he can't because which Vlad in the right mind would W/R solely to proc this?

Pumping Iron2/7/2018, 12:58:09 PM1 votes

warlord>phaserush right now