Where are the jungle improvements? Are they even coming?

Yenn·Sep 4, 2019·24 votes·8,516 views

Auto-filled to jungle three games in a row, the first two being dodged by someone else. Yikes.

This role is currently less desirable than support, and it shows. The viable champion pool is incredibly small and your performance is very largely dependent on not only your team mates' awareness and skill, but to a greater extent, also their champion picks. If you fall behind, you're completely invalidated unless you're playing a scaling champion, in which case you're even more reliant on your team in order to have any impact.

21 Comments

Düff McWhalenSep 4, 20197 votes

JarvanIV Khazix Kayn Jax MasterYi

Such diverse. Much wow.

LegacyDAPSep 5, 20192 votes

Jax and Master Yi?

You mean Nunu, Elise, Dr. Mundo, and Karthus right?

Düff McWhalenSep 5, 20191 votes

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Jax and Master Yi?

You mean Nunu, Elise, Dr. Mundo, and Karthus right?

idk what elo you're in, but these ones are consistent through Silver and Gold where I exist.

LegacyDAPSep 5, 20191 votes

They're not very good jungle picks, but you are correct that they're both picked in Silver and Gold a lot.

The higher elo you go the more Nunu, Elise, Karthus, and bad Lee Sin you will see.

Düff McWhalenSep 5, 20191 votes

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They're not very good jungle picks, but you are correct that they're both picked in Silver and Gold a lot.

The higher elo you go the more Nunu, Elise, Karthus, and bad Lee Sin you will see.

Yi and Jax are great because they require far less effort for the same performance.

LegacyDAPSep 6, 20191 votes

haha no.

The thigh guySep 5, 20196 votes

Tbh they need to revert the xp nerf and the spawn time nerf, then do what they should have done the first time and remove the slow on red buff and replace it with more health regen.

Pendergast891Sep 4, 20193 votes

make camps longer to kill, allow 3 camps to get lvl 3 again,

have 1st scuttle spawns delayed again,

give both blue and red jungle items 1 ward,

remove plants, (river melon may be fine) reintroduce camp smites (change them from season 6 if needed)

nerf dragon buffs, or change them, lower tower plate gold,

add new jg items and enchants

Obviously not all of these should be done, i'm just throwing out ideas on what i believe would help the jungle not be one of the worst feeling roles to play, while at the same time not become domineering again.

xelakerSep 5, 20192 votes

doing like 90% of these would be just fine lol

Daddy AntsSep 5, 20191 votes

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add new jg items and enchants

Crit Jungle item would be nice.

Bloodrazor is trash.

Warrior does it's job for AD fighters/Assassin's.

Runic Echoes does it's job for AP junglers.

Pendergast891Sep 5, 20191 votes

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Crit Jungle item would be nice.

Bloodrazor is trash.

Warrior does it's job for AD fighters/Assassin's.

Runic Echoes does it's job for AP junglers.

i was thinking of things like trackers and hatchet. Having more items that give you a choice of turning smite into a combat sumoners again would be appreciated. having an enchant build from zeal or cloak would be cool

FrancisMuniSep 5, 20191 votes

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make camps longer to kill, allow 3 camps to get lvl 3 again,

have 1st scuttle spawns delayed again,

give both blue and red jungle items 1 ward,

remove plants, (river melon may be fine) reintroduce camp smites (change them from season 6 if needed)

nerf dragon buffs, or change them, lower tower plate gold,

add new jg items and enchants

Obviously not all of these should be done, i'm just throwing out ideas on what i believe would help the jungle not be one of the worst feeling roles to play, while at the same time not become domineering again.

They also should take a look at Cinderhulk. It's idiotic that you can only take it if you have tank runes on a tank champion who is going to build full tank. Otherwise it simply doesn't give a shit of stats. Its constantly being nerfed and nerfed only because Zac and Amumu .

AnateraSep 5, 20193 votes

Doubt it. Even if they are, it'll take literal months before Riot will even put them on the PBE. If you ever look up what little information there is about their balance workflow, it's embarrassingly slow and inefficient. No wonder it takes them fucking forever to implement the most basic and tiniest of changes.

RekSai CoffeeCoSep 4, 20192 votes

Hold tight they will change it last week of preseason.

Dale WardarkSep 4, 20192 votes

I'm having a good time playing Jungle Shen with my premade, but they're usually in mid and top, so I can focus them without worrying too much about bot and we can still carry games. I notice the "getting behind" factor way too much as Shen though. He's already hobbled because his early clears are garbage, and most meta junglers can just invade and kill pre-six. Shen's ganks are great if you know how to use him, but if your team doesn't know how to respond to a Shen gank or engage, your kinda fucked. The saving grace is the ultimate, which can be battle-changing in a horrible situation.