You know what team builder had that we really wanted for ranked?

Paroe·Jan 15, 2016·4 votes·437 views

A lobby in which we could talk and strategize without fear of a timer kicking us out.

8 Comments

TohobJan 15, 20162 votes

team builder didn't have that. team builder had a lobby where you could talk and strategize until the moment your 5th player arrived and everyone ready'd and started, not that anyone ever did use this time to strategize.

the ability to strategize was also severely limited by your inability to change your champion to match your team strategy, so the new champ select has much more time to talk and strategize than team builder ever did, especially since theres a section before bans that is entirely dedicated to building your team strategy.

ParoeJan 15, 20162 votes

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team builder didn't have that. team builder had a lobby where you could talk and strategize until the moment your 5th player arrived and everyone ready'd and started, not that anyone ever did use this time to strategize.

the ability to strategize was also severely limited by your inability to change your champion to match your team strategy, so the new champ select has much more time to talk and strategize than team builder ever did, especially since theres a section before bans that is entirely dedicated to building your team strategy.

Why not use this chance to enhance team builder then? Build on what was good.

You could easily have "lobbies" like old team builder where people queue up and get slotted into their lanes WITH their preferred champ then when everyone is ready you can go into the actual queue; preferrably after you and your team have talked and strategized a little.

TohobJan 15, 20161 votes

building off of team builder to make it better and workable in ranked is exactly what the new champ select is

ParoeJan 15, 20162 votes

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building off of team builder to make it better and workable in ranked is exactly what the new champ select is

Except it takes what we LIKED about team builder and tacks on things that on paper are a good idea but in practice few people actually like. The new system is very little like team builder and makes the pick/ban phase needlessly longer. by a lot.

VegasNevadaJan 15, 20162 votes

there was no strategizing... its was pretty much complaining about the wait for ADC and Support

ParoeJan 15, 20161 votes

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there was no strategizing... its was pretty much complaining about the wait for ADC and Support

Do you blame the carpenter for not using their hammer, or the hammer for not being used? :c the untimed lobby was a great tool for talking about how youre going to play when it was used as such.

VegasNevadaJan 15, 20161 votes

it was inefficient though

ParoeJan 15, 20161 votes

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it was inefficient though

It wasnt inefficient. its just people afk'd or tabbed out while waiting. you cant blame the tool of nobody used it; the tool was always there and when it was used it was effective.

Hell, i remember one game where i was planning on going machinegun lulu jungle. We talked about it and instead of me going jungle, our midlane malphite went jungle, our toplane yasuo went mid, and i went top with the intention to swap lanes if the matchups were bad. Mid yasuo actually went bot because we were against an anivia yi botlane and i went mid against a riven while our ADC lucian went top against a shen.

When the teambuilder chat worked, it worked WELL. We spend a good twenty minutes talking about how we were gonna play.