Can we not give Urgot a dash?

fuffychan·Jul 8, 2017·2 votes·532 views

I thought the idea behind "juggernauts" was to not have mobility. So why is that there? It doesnt even make sense aesthetically or gameplay wise.

19 Comments

Big LincolnJul 8, 20175 votes

it's teeny. not even long enough to reach an adc

the flip part is more important so he can use his passive

fuffychanJul 8, 20171 votes

Still stupid. There are too many f---ing dashes in this game on tanks.

Assuming you get hit by it you automatically die because he also has CC.

Big LincolnJul 8, 20173 votes

im not saying i want him to have a dash but it's there so that he can have the flip

at least it's not instant Gragas Sejuani Poppy

Brutalitops01Jul 8, 20172 votes

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Still stupid. There are too many f---ing dashes in this game on tanks.

Assuming you get hit by it you automatically die because he also has CC.

Other than a slow on his Q, what other CC does he even have? His W slows himself, his shotgun knees don't have any CC, his ult technically has a skillshot suppress, but he HAS to have you within an execute threshold to use that. And, if he does, you're dead when you reach him unless an ally kills him first, so there's literally nothing you can do to stop him regardless.

ApocalypsicJul 9, 20172 votes

Microdash that works like an incredibly smaller version of his old ult.

Used to proc his passive.

I don't see any issues.

King of DemonsJul 8, 20173 votes

IT HAS LIKE 100 RANGE WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

fuffychanJul 8, 20171 votes

Its still a dash that is unnecessary. And he has enough cc that if you are hit with it you die.

RalanrJul 9, 20172 votes

Just a slow on his Q is his CC beyond his dash though. His ult CC doesn't really count unless his target is low.

Variks the LoyalJul 8, 20172 votes

It's not even a good dash. It's short, has a delay, and a long travel time.

It's so he can more easily reposition his enemies or himself to take advantage of the shotgun knees, elsewise he'd be too binary in terms of play pattern and counterplay.

fuffychanJul 8, 20171 votes

A dash is a dash. Lets give Darius a dash too, to make it easier for him to use E.

SlythionJul 8, 20172 votes

That's a terrible comparison

Wow it's almost like almost every juggernaut has some form of a short-range gap closer and Urgot isn't the exception, whoaaaa 0_0

Brutalitops01Jul 8, 20171 votes

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That's a terrible comparison

Wow it's almost like almost every juggernaut has some form of a short-range gap closer and Urgot isn't the exception, whoaaaa 0_0

That's right. Mordekaiser is. Unless he builds Rylai's or has an ally nearby to W for the movement speed buff, then his E is a slow.

SlythionJul 9, 20171 votes

Mordekaiser is considered to be one of the most buggy and dated champions in the entire game, I don't know how wise it is to try to use him as the image of a normal juggernaut...

Besides, it's not as though gap closers or engages are unknown to the juggernaut class, Darius is a good example of this

Brutalitops01Jul 9, 20171 votes

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Mordekaiser is considered to be one of the most buggy and dated champions in the entire game, I don't know how wise it is to try to use him as the image of a normal juggernaut...

Besides, it's not as though gap closers or engages are unknown to the juggernaut class, is a good example of this

I'm not saying he's a good example of a juggernaut, I'm saying that he has no real gap closer other than running at you.

SlythionJul 10, 20171 votes

If every champion followed the characteristics of their champion class exactly, there wouldn't be much diversity in the game.

Morde gave up any mobility he has in favor of having more objective control than nearly any other juggernaut

RenownedWheat42Jul 9, 20171 votes

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