Here are some "junglers" who I've managed to not only clear the jungle with without a leash, but solo the dragon at level 3.
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yungretrooo2 votesI kinda lol'ed at the anivia. This means that almost any jungler can level 3 dragon doesnt it?
ProfDrDeath1 votesYes.
Because they quartered the damage, but only doubled the attack speed.
Bronze Prophet1 votesIt is easier to kill but they want to open the jungle pool. That is why they nerfed it's damage.
Support Evelynn3 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze Prophet,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8adK8793,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-01-28T11:48:43.352+0000)
It is easier to kill but they want to open the jungle pool. That is why they nerfed it's damage.
I don't think opening the jungle pool has anything to do with soloing drag at level 3 on Anivia.
Bronze Prophet1 votesYes it does. It makes dragon more of an early game objective. The game is NOT suppose to be 'You do not take dragon until 15 minutes in the game'. Since you are complaining about this, I am sure you are a new player and was not around when Dragon could be 2 manned at level 1.
Support Evelynn1 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze Prophet,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8adK8793,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-01-28T11:57:44.784+0000)
Yes it does. It makes dragon more of an early game objective. The game is NOT suppose to be 'You do not take dragon until 15 minutes in the game'. Since you are complaining about this, I am sure you are a new player and was not around when Dragon could be 2 manned at level 1.
Except Dragon is far more power than it has ever been. And if you remember in previous seasons they have made changes to drag to make it far less attractive to sneak them early.
Bronze Prophet1 votesYeah when it was worth gold. Now that he only gives you buffs, Riot wants it to me a more early objective so you can get stacks faster. Because as of right now, if you were to get all 5 dragons buffs. it would take you 30-40 minutes without the enemy team getting 1 buff. They do not want it to take that long, its a nice change and I am glad they did that.
Support Evelynn1 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze Prophet,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8adK8793,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-01-28T12:17:13.488+0000)
Yeah when it was worth gold. Now that he only gives you buffs, Riot wants it to me a more early objective so you can get stacks faster. Because as of right now, if you were to get all 5 dragons buffs. it would take you 30-40 minutes without the enemy team getting 1 buff. They do not want it to take that long, its a nice change and I am glad they did that.
Ranked 5v5 Soloqueue
% win after First Dragon Global 71.1%
http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/win-stats
As long as the statistics for a first drag are this high, I don't think you can dismiss its power like that...
Regulas1 votesThis is where understanding statistics and anecdotal evidence is important.
Your stats only proves that winning teams are more likely to have taken first Dragon, but does nothing to show that the act of taking dragon was why they won (i.e. it does not demonstrate why the information is like that). You could just as easily say that they took dragon first because they have better objective and team focus and it was that focus that let's them win not the actual fact of Dragon itself, which would merely be incidental.
Raptamei1 votesRanked 5v5 Soloqueue
% win after First Dragon Global 71.1%
http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/win-stats
As long as the statistics for a first drag are this high, I don't think you can dismiss its power like that...
Getting the first dragon doesn't necessarily cause you to win the game.
Being good at the game causes you to win the fight over first dragon, and also causes you to win the game.
Vaypoure1 votesJust means more attention to drag earlier, nothing wrong with that.
Support Evelynn2 votesJust means more attention to drag earlier, nothing wrong with that.
When so many junglers can do it with almost no risk, yeah there's something wrong with it.
Drunk Rummate1 voteswait really?
so just go fight dragon at level 3 as any champion with an upgraded machete and you'll kill it? do you have to have 2 charges of smite?
Support Evelynn1 voteswait really?
so just go fight dragon at level 3 as any champion with an upgraded machete and you'll kill it? do you have to have 2 charges of smite?
Yah pretty much, and no you don't.
(Unless you're Leblanc or Anivia)
AccountaBilabudy1 votesStupid decision yet again by Rito development team. Between this dragon change, the 100g increase, and the ridiculous Tristana nerfs (er update...) they are proving yet against they have no clue what they're doing.
It's okay though, LCS is making big $$$
