What's the difference between a tank and bruiser?
Idk. They look the same to me.
Idk. They look the same to me.
Bruiser: Does a crap ton of damage and is really tanky. Tank: Too fat to shoot skillshots past, has a lot of CC, is really annoying because they eat your damage for breakfast.
So where does this leave
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lol agreed if you build any tank with 1 damage item they really get insane
Bruiser = Tank with TONS of damage Tank = CC with enough damage to make it hard to ignore them.
Based on old definitions bruisers are a subsection of fighter, not tank. So a bruiser would be a fighter with tons of tank instead.
Tanks are primarily threats due to their CC.
Bruisers are primarily threats due to their damage.
Obviously, this can vary depending on playstyle and build for the champion (and some champions bring a mixture of both), but that's how I keep them straight.
So does that mean Ekko is a bruiser with a giant aoe stun and slow.
If you build him for durability (i.e. Cinderhulk, Frozen Heart, Spirit Visage) then his CC is his primary threat. Considering he still provides decent damage due to his passive and W-passive, you could consider him a bruiser.
If you build him for damage (i.e. Lichbane, Luden's Echo, Zhonya's Hourglass) then he is an assassin with utility.
He seems like a tank, bruiser, utility, assassin am I wrong?
Depends on how you build him. He has mobility, CC, and damage; how you build and play him defines his playstyle, strengths, and weaknesses.
If you want another example, look at Jarvan:
Bruisers are very kitable. In exchange, they deal a lot of up front damage.
Tanks are hard to peel off. They don't deal much damage, but lock you down and outlast you. Not kitable.
Both are very, very burly and can take a lot of hits.
has knockups, but most of her kit is sheer damage and some tankiness. Bruiser. No stuns or slows built in.
a silence, natural tankiness, but deals mostly damage in teamfights. Bruiser.
a pull and heal, mostly deals fuckloads of damage. Bruiser.
knock-ups, a shield and ways to deal damage. Bruiser.
A bruiser has tools to mitigate damage and they usually have some form of cc (similar to mages, because mages can have cc but not all of them can be supports!). What they do in teamfights is deal damage, as well as soaking up damage for the squishies.
Tanks, on the other hand, soak up damage but they tend to have more cc.
knock-up, slow, aoe stun/slow.
root, hook, slow, and targetted knockup. His shield is designed to get him to be focused as well.
assloads of cc
cc up the ass, defensive wall
The difference between tanks and bruisers is that tanks have more tools to protect the carry, and bruisers tend to have more ways to dive the carry. Both can do the other's job, however. Tanks tend to have stronger defensive steroids that incentive teamfights, while bruisers have shorter defensive steroids (shorter shields, like Vi or J4) or defensive boosts that encourage them to build some damage (Garen). Even if you built them exactly the same, their jobs would be a little different. Sejuani is a lot better at peeling for your carries in a losing teamfight than, say, Darius.
They're pretty similar, but their functions are slightly different.
no stuns or slows. Just 2 knock ups. and a shield
Some pretty nice ms he has too to just run in and win trades, and stop anybody winning while being tanky
He's the only person that I think is a true bruiser out of that jug patch.
is in a good spot right now. he's not super strong either.
Good tank after they removed her damage, and nerfed cinder.
Like sej but support.
Like Sej but less skill
not too strong good support, and a good peeler.
I think all the tanks you mentioned are fine. However, all the bruisers got more damage than the tanks, and probably half as good as cc as they do while still being as tanky.
However, all the bruisers got more damage than the tanks
I see you're starting to understand the difference.
I think all the tanks you mentioned are fine. However, all the bruisers got more damage than the tanks, and probably half as good as cc as they do while still being as tanky.
And the student begins to learn.
Tanks point to the enemy carries and say sit down, stop damaging my team, shut up, you can't run away from me, and calls to their carries to hurry up and get over here so we can kill them.
Bruisers try to get on the enemy and kill them by themselves through a mix of damage and durability.