I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. IDK if it's cause I'm solo Que a lot. If it's my position. My warding habits. I usually have a ward or two after at all times and am usually under turret. Shouldn't that be the opportune time for jungle to gank? I mean if it was me in the jungle and the enemy laner was near my tower. I'd fly in faster then the police after finding someone on FBI's most wanted.
Tormentula4 votesThere's a lot of factors to account for, the ones in particular that can make a jungler stray away from a specific lane could be the follow;
Sometimes your jungler is locked on one side of the map either due to pathing forced by the enemy jungler, invades, or because they want to completely lock out the enemy jungler from having easy access to one of the side lanes.
If you're pushed in, a jungler can come however they have to consider; is the wave too big? is a key skill shot reliable in a wave thats built up? Enemy vs. Laner HP difference, could somebody die? If the opponent has priority, what about the 2v2 if the jungler knows the other is near for the counter gank?
For example, if you're playing illaoi vs. vlad, there is no reason for the jungler to sit top lane because its much harder for illaoi (or even vlad in this case) to follow up on the gank, and the gain from going to that lane is not that great and is more detrimental to show up on the map and give up dragon or a free gank bot lane for. There's a huge difference between choosing to gank for a riven, kassadin, ezreal, and janna lane because two of these won't bring anything to the table for an easy gank, while riven can snowball and carry the game themselves while the other lanes just farm and scales to win over time. A lane the jungler should prioritize are ones they can easily win 2v2 with, 2v1 obviously, have enough damage to secure the kill (and reliably land it, its a lot easier to gank for a draven or kalista than an ezreal or kog'maw since they both do very little damage early, and in ezreal's case is very unreliable with most of his damage being blocked by minions and dodgable.), and of course CC lanes (what can follow up with more CC, what has the easiest CC to engage with like ryze or Twisted fate? )
Of course there's also the fact low elo junglers don't base decisions around anything I just said and could being aimlessly walking around or missing opportunities they just didn't realize they could go for. Sometimes you gotta say in champ select 'top should have priority, you may need to counter gank' or 'our bot is thresh + draven, camp that lane and we're golden' as long as you understand champs yourself to make these calls. You can carry your jungler by leading where to go, helping them ward, shoving when they're invading so you have priority incase they do something stupid, etc.
The Ecdysiast1 votesBecause no one likes ARURF.
#bringbackURF
i get nervous1 votesWhat lane do you play?
AR URF1 votes[{quoted}](name=i get nervous,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8XuoTpjg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-23T08:09:59.717+0000)
What lane do you play?
mid and top
Evil Jester1 votesJungle main here.
I'll be honest, it's a trust issue.
you could very well be doing everything right and still not get ganks, it's not that you are not worthy of it but there are alot of factors.
Like who you are Versing. Depending on who im ganking, maybe it's someone that has way more mobility than me and can easily get away with or without flash like say 
for example, if i'm playing someone like 
I know that unless you got some hard CC i have to rely to make the gank successful on it's almost pointless. I mean the most I could do is maybe get then to run away from you to give you a breath of air and thats it, the problem with that is It might be a better worth of time to gank bot lane or mid depending on who we DON'T want to get fed, like a 
mid or maybe a 
Other times it could be because of who I'm playing as and i'm not confident in myself early on. Like say 
I may AFK farm till level 6 because I feel worthless otherwise. Especially if the enemy has alot of tanks or champs with survivability, and I need to wait till they have low HP that I can capitalise on.
Sometimes it's just too hard or impossible to gank, too many wards? 
mid is suicide to gank on, 
top once he hits 6 can be hard as shit to gank.
then it maybe because they are too fed, and I know most think it would make logical sense to try to shut down the fed champ, but sometimes they can IN FACT 1v2 and kill both you and your jungler, making it even worse, then it becomes a risk to come help even though maybe I should have been there earlier.
There's A Lot of decision making as a jungler, and though some choices look painfully obvious to you, it may not be so to us. Sometimes the support misses a grab or stun, sometimes the top lane loses lane, sometimes the jungler made bad decisions that game.
Hope this answers your question.
Leon41671 votesIt could also be they're power farming or sticking to a specific route that puts them where they need to be in taking objectives. You need to think about what are your junlgers goals and priorities. A kill on top lane or Mountain Dragon? You could always play less aggressively and let your laner push and freeze the lane so when they're done with their things they'll see a much more likable gank opportunity.
AR URF1 votesIt could also be they're power farming or sticking to a specific route that puts them where they need to be in taking objectives. You need to think about what are your junlgers goals and priorities. A kill on top lane or Mountain Dragon? You could always play less aggressively and let your laner push and freeze the lane so when they're done with their things they'll see a much more likable gank opportunity.
That's where the problem is. I'll like be frozen under tower for all of laning phase without a single gank from my jungler. Then I'll see my jungler trying to peel for like a 0/4 
or something and in my head I'm thinking "umm hello? what's making them 1/4 going to change?" assuming they can make the gank successful. And it's like consecutive gank after gank. that has failed and they make it so obvious. For example if I'm playing mid lane and the enemy jungler has done nothing but gank my lane. Chances of him ganking my lane again go up so hopefully warding will let us know.
I'm not perfect and frankly not that good at the game. But even I know the obvious stuff. that needs to be done. Like junglers think "oh top is 3/0, so he's good and doesn't need ganks" But that thinking is the exact opposite of what you should do. Imagine making your 3/0 top lane, a 8/0 top lane. He would most likely solo carry the game and help lanes that are doing poorly.
Leon41671 votes[{quoted}](name=AR URF,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8XuoTpjg,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-25T03:04:25.114+0000)
That's where the problem is. I'll like be frozen under tower for all of laning phase without a single gank from my jungler. Then I'll see my jungler trying to peel for like a 0/4
I'm not perfect and frankly not that good at the game. But even I know the obvious stuff. that needs to be done. Like junglers think "oh top is 3/0, so he's good and doesn't need ganks" But that thinking is the exact opposite of what you should do. Imagine making your 3/0 top lane, a 8/0 top lane. He would most likely solo carry the game and help lanes that are doing poorly.
You've got a point there and in that case you're laning exactly as you should. Not all games are the same and neither are the players but if that 0/4 Jhin is 4 deaths in at 5 minutes junglers tend to start camping because they know Jhin just gonna die again in another minute or so, so most junglers think that if they're there constantly they can stop the feed fest early. That's just one situation that could be going on in your jungler's head. And yeah getting that 3/0 top laner to 8/0 is an ideal scenario the chances of an enemy taking objectives that could give their team an edge later goes up. Doesn't matter how good I am but I've gone literally 20+ kills and zero deaths and still lost games because enemy ADC got fed and has 3 Mountain and 2 Infernal Drakes so they're burning through towers like it's just a rock in lava. It all depends on which scenario your jungler wants to deal with. OP top will most likely carry or making sure that bot doesn't get fed and top is at least strong in the late game.__
AR URF1 votesYou've got a point there and in that case you're laning exactly as you should. Not all games are the same and neither are the players but if that 0/4 Jhin is 4 deaths in at 5 minutes junglers tend to start camping because they know Jhin just gonna die again in another minute or so, so most junglers think that if they're there constantly they can stop the feed fest early. That's just one situation that could be going on in your jungler's head. And yeah getting that 3/0 top laner to 8/0 is an ideal scenario the chances of an enemy taking objectives that could give their team an edge later goes up. Doesn't matter how good I am but I've gone literally 20+ kills and zero deaths and still lost games because enemy ADC got fed and has 3 Mountain and 2 Infernal Drakes so they're burning through towers like it's just a rock in lava. It all depends on which scenario your jungler wants to deal with. OP top will most likely carry or making sure that bot doesn't get fed and top is at least strong in the late game.__
I feel like riot shares some responsibility for the bad jungle xp.
Truli911 votesIt could also be they're power farming or sticking to a specific route that puts them where they need to be in taking objectives. You need to think about what are your junlgers goals and priorities. A kill on top lane or Mountain Dragon? You could always play less aggressively and let your laner push and freeze the lane so when they're done with their things they'll see a much more likable gank opportunity.
yeah right, stop with the excuses. i've had games where i didnt even seen my jg bot the entire game. their jg was camping bot. getting objectives. ours was not. in very fk few matches i've had jg ganking bot.
EnigmaticAJ1 votesAint that the truth. Almost every game our jungler gets no herald or drake or baron and doesnt gank while the enemy jungler gets baron herald and drakes and ganks a ton and always has higher creep score. Is it just me or does anyone else feel cursed to have a crappy jungler every game? And its not any of the factors being stated here, my last game our jungler didnt gank and his reason was he didnt feel like it. Like cmon, I just want to have a shot at winning but im gonna die over and over when were ganked 10+ times with no help even when pinging for assistance and pinging the gankers specifically to prove they are there. They even say to just "hide unde the tower" but I can tell you rn. That tower does not make you unkillable, just puts you in a cage till someone breaks you out. Also if your thinking "well just run back" the issue is the laner is infront and the jg is in the back and you just get poked till they go in for the kill.
Beerstein1 votesyeah right, stop with the excuses. i've had games where i didnt even seen my jg bot the entire game. their jg was camping bot. getting objectives. ours was not. in very fk few matches i've had jg ganking bot.
If this happens it's 2 reasons. 1. The enemy JG saw a gap in your play that they could repeatedly exploit, so they are.
Likewise your JG would have seen the same thing and his only chance is to find a similar one from the enemy in another lane or resign to the ultimate end. At this point he'd see your lane as a lost cause. If you're playing in a way that's giving the enemy JG what they feel is free kills, your JG wouldn't be able to do a lot about it unless he got there before the second kill for a counter-gank, even then if you're positioning/playing improperly it might still not work.
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I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. IDK if it's cause I'm solo Que a lot. If it's my position. My warding habits. I usually have a ward or two after at all times and am usually under turret. Shouldn't that be the opportune time for jungle to gank? I mean if it was me in the jungle and the enemy laner was near my tower. I'd fly in faster then the police after finding someone on FBI's most wanted.
Because if junglers leave the jungle on anything but a 100% gank they potentially lose the entire game for your team. They're in a very sensitive state at the moment (which is why so many are getting autofilled into JG as JG mains file out)