How is Zed weaker in preseason? Don't assassins thrive on lack of vision?

Photos of Ghosts·Nov 24, 2015·3 votes·502 views

It's so goddamn easy to find a poor ADC wandering 4 meters out of their base lategame, whe no one has room for pinks anymore.

17 Comments

LajneenNov 25, 20154 votes

Because literally all of his core items got nerfed hard.

Dasdi96Nov 25, 20152 votes

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Because literally all of his core items got nerfed hard.

Really, new item 3142 is basically made for him.

LajneenNov 25, 20151 votes

He scales much better with critical strikes than he does with pure AD.

Dasdi96Nov 25, 20152 votes

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He scales much better with critical strikes than he does with pure AD.

Crit is not an ad assassin stat. Ad assassins should focus on pure ad and armor pen as well as a bit of cdr.

LajneenNov 25, 20151 votes

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Crit is not an ad assassin stat.

Yes it is, Kha'Zix and Lee are the only AD Assassins that benefits more from pure AD than crit.

Photos of GhostsNov 25, 20151 votes

Zed and Talon both have AD scaling spells (no crit there) and an on-hit effect (no crit there either). Yea.

Frost HellfireNov 24, 20151 votes

Let me guess. ADC main?

Photos of GhostsNov 25, 20153 votes

No, a ward main who rediscovered ADCs but doens't know how to play them without wards.

Sona PingNov 25, 20152 votes

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No, a ward main

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Duke AnaxNov 25, 20151 votes

That's odd, ADC traditionally take blue, and with blue you now have more wards than ever before.

Photos of GhostsNov 25, 20151 votes

That's because I didn't use blue before. The rare times I played ADC, I used Ashe, who already has blue trinket in her kit, so I still used yellow. Anyway, I always bought individual wards as adc.

Duke AnaxNov 25, 20151 votes

Well, now you should get blue even when you are playing Ashe. You can really light up a lot of map with it, especially when there is another with it.

Problem is getting to level 9 though.

Big LincolnNov 25, 20151 votes

because tanks are good at peeling

and tanks are also very good in meta

Photos of GhostsNov 25, 20151 votes

...are they? Is it just not the symptom of everyone picking full ad? I started going tabis on ADCs.

Guyy FieriNov 25, 20151 votes

Yes but...ad assasins like Zed Talon and Kha'zix get that advantage because by the time you see them and can react, you have lost your life...because the AD items for those assasins are weaker, while they can still get the proper engage, they don't ha e the same one shot potential as before

SwapShadowsNov 25, 20151 votes

You have to be an uneducated fool to think crit is not something most assassins want.

Photos of GhostsNov 25, 20151 votes

I didn't say it. I said they have so many more good opportunitis to do their job. And anyway Riot's argument is not bad: on assassins you want consistent damage and a perfect estimation of it. And you're not going to build 100% crit chance like ADCs so crit makes your damage inconsistent. Now, if the removal of crit from assassin items wasn't compensated with other stats, that's a different problem. It doesn't equate that cri was needed. It equates that a higher overall value of the item was needed.