How can anyone look at this Fiora buff

Hordes66·Aug 7, 2019·34 votes·12,234 views

and immediately see that this isn't a good idea?

Fiora [Changelist]

Bladework (E) 
    bonus attack speed increased from 50% to 50/**60/70/80/90%**

31 Comments

church arsonAug 7, 201917 votes

Fiora is a beast in the right hands. Dunno what makes ppl believe she needs buffs.

BjørnetjenestenAug 7, 20196 votes

Most likely she is recieving a skin soon, so she also needs to be a beast in the hands of bronze 4 players.

enshineAug 7, 20193 votes

every champion with a modicum of damage is "a beast in the right hands"

and literally none of us here possess "the right hands," unless you're secretly an EUW challenger smurf

ImTheJuggernautyAug 7, 20197 votes

BS, I've seen plenty of good fiora's. And the problem with her is that when she is good, just like champs such as riven or yasuo, she removes the enemy players agency almost entirely. The fight becomes almost entirely based on how well SHE does, and not based on how well her opponent plays because she has so much damage AND outplay potential in the forms of high mobility and an ability blocker, on top of excellent healing. Oh and she just so happens to be able to cc people who try to cc her during her blocker which can block ults….AND she has an AS slow which makes fighting her EXTRA difficult if she has equal or better items.

Unusual midlanerAug 7, 20192 votes

bramble vest wall hugging

church arsonAug 8, 20192 votes

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every champion with a modicum of damage is "a beast in the right hands"

and literally none of us here possess "the right hands," unless you're secretly an EUW challenger smurf

Fiora has a really high skill ceiling.

Abibyama IIAug 7, 201910 votes

The cooldown buff is the bigger buff tbh

DeathBurstAug 7, 20197 votes

It's only for 2 attacks. This whole buff is actually smaller than a Sheen proc.

BeatzBoyFTWAug 7, 20197 votes

It gives opponents an extremely small window to prevent themselves from being hit twice. Considering how extremely mobile Fiora is already thanks to her Q's cooldown being closely refreshed for each hit, she seriously does not need this buff at all.

KazekibaAug 7, 20196 votes

For 2 entire autos, one of which cannot crit (not that she builds crit items). Any good Fiora player lands 3-4 consecutive autos faster than the delay between 2 attacks would be normally anyway.

Jimmy RustlesAug 7, 20193 votes

I mean it'll actually let her damage towers now

And make her win trades so much harder

DamSonWhUFndThisAug 7, 20193 votes

ok HOLD THE FREAKING PHONE GUYS

LOOK AT THIS

Fiora's buff you see up there: 50% - 90%

Master Yi's ultimate: 30 / 55 / 80%

okayyyy......

DamSonWhUFndThisAug 7, 20191 votes

sure I'm comparing fruit to a meat but still

ApocalypsicAug 7, 20192 votes

Ok but you know it's just the attack speed of two autos right....

Daddy AntsAug 8, 20191 votes

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ok HOLD THE FREAKING PHONE GUYS

LOOK AT THIS

Fiora's buff you see up there: 50% - 90%

Master Yi's ultimate: 30 / 55 / 80%

okayyyy......

Bladework lasts for 3 autos.

Master Yi can have his ult running for over 30 seconds if he gets takedowns.

guygoestothestorAug 10, 20191 votes

{quoted}

ok HOLD THE FREAKING PHONE GUYS

LOOK AT THIS

Fiora's buff you see up there: 50% - 90%

Master Yi's ultimate: 30 / 55 / 80%

okayyyy......

She gets it for 2 autos and no ms yi gets it for infinity as long as he kills someone and get ms so shhhhh

DarkTree1Aug 7, 20193 votes

i think it's a (relatively poor) attempt at allowing her to have better tower pressure but since it only lasts for two autos this is just making fiora's short trades even better than they already are

DamSonWhUFndThisAug 7, 20192 votes

her E is autoattack reset - more AS makes it faster so she can do more autoattacks

this could make her too strong considering in good hands she already is pretty strong

DarkTree1Aug 8, 20191 votes

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her E is autoattack reset - more AS makes it faster so she can do more autoattacks

this could make her too strong considering in good hands she already is pretty strong

yeah i know i said it was just going to increase her already strong damage instead of help her in an area she needs/people have been asking for like the ability to split

astralwitAug 7, 20193 votes

It's only for two autos. It looks more insane than it actually is.

LimrickAug 8, 20193 votes

You can definitely tell nobody here has ever played Fiora lmao. The attack speed on her E is basically irrelevant anyways, the other buff is way more important.

DamSonWhUFndThisAug 7, 20192 votes

Got another point - if this buff than maybe people would go assasin Fiora mabye with the 3 hit attack speed rune maybe not. Like 3 hit nuke build or something the 90% + AS items would make her QE almost instant right?

Rajinikanth FanAug 10, 20191 votes

Assasin build is trolling on fiora. If you build too squishy, you wont be able to finish off your ult, you will die before that.

The KombinatorAug 8, 20192 votes

Riot's decision is always perfect, and should not be questioned. Ever. She can still be countered, and that means any buff is irrevelant unless she becomes uncounterable. Git gud.

GodlyBaneAug 8, 20192 votes

she already auto wins lane lol

FiddleMyGoochhAug 7, 20191 votes

this is just riot trying to ruin their game even more then it already is bc they fucked up adding all these new champs constantly instead of tweaking the champs they started out with and making the game a balanced game i dont get how dota can balance their game but riot can balance the issues on the rift when it is the same exact game

astralwitAug 7, 20193 votes

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this is just riot trying to ruin their game even more then it already is bc they fucked up adding all these new champs constantly instead of tweaking the champs they started out with and making the game a balanced game i dont get how dota can balance their game but riot can balance the issues on the rift when it is the same exact game

If you take more of a data driven approach rather than how you feel about balance, you'll realize that it's in a rather good state and win rates are actually closer than in DoTA. While that's not the end all be all of balance, it does suggest that the average game should feel mostly fair from a balance perspective.

FiddleMyGoochhAug 7, 20192 votes

im not speaking how i feel i do go by data driven approach especially towards anything league related and if youre gonna sit there and be the type of person that says oh illaoi needed buffs and kled need the grievous wounds or etc you must be smoking some hella good shit lol and data-wise dota is far more balanced then league will ever be you dont see their community in a uproar ever patch and etc and if you wanna talk winrates maybe you should recheck your numbers bc some skyrocketed after certain patches and ones plummeted after certain patches been playing this game since season 2 im not oblivious to anything like you comment may have seemed me to be but k thanks.

xelakerAug 7, 20191 votes

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and immediately see that this isn't a good idea?

Fiora [Changelist]
Bladework (E) 
    bonus attack speed increased from 50% to 50/**60/70/80/90%**

Because your average forum user isn't a part of the frat keg stand that is the balance team.