An Idea for Karma's R-E

Sugar Momma·Mar 4, 2016·25 votes·1,209 views

Although 's R-E is a fantastic shielding ability, I still feel that something is missing ever since they removed the AOE dmg on it.

I was thinking, really needs some kind of hard CC in her kit...Why not have it knockback enemies a short distance from the target she uses "Defiance" on (not as far as a ult). I mean there's this shield blast...And then nothing?

I wouldn't mind if she lost her ability to shield minions if there would be abuse cases with that in lane (R-E a caster minion and knock the enemy ADC toward you would be kind of disgusting). Also, is fairly balanced right now, so if removing the ability to shield minions isn't enough of a nerf, they could nerf the AOE shield (but NOT remove it).

The problem with support has been she lacks an interrupt of some sort. She's the only support with that problem. This would give her better peeling ability and give her some extra synergy with initiators.

15 Comments

TNHA BaritoneMar 4, 20164 votes

I think this wouldn't make her STRONGER or BROKEN. It just seems like something that isn't game-changing but it does help the champion fulfill her role without going over the line. :) +1

Tbh it feels like it should have been like that from since rework

Best Valor NAMar 5, 20162 votes

Take some of the ridiculously high damage off her q / r-q and give her some utility on other abilitys and that's fine. But if a level 1 karma R-Q can do 1/3rd of my health at level 1 then i don't think she deserves any more power then what she has.

KarbuncleMar 5, 20168 votes

If she's using her Mantra for a knock back on a shield then she isn't doing her R+Q nuke,you know that right?

TNHA BaritoneMar 6, 20161 votes

That guy makes me cringe.

Voluug13Mar 6, 20162 votes

Or rework her because this kit sucks big time and has no direction whatsoever.

charcharmunroMar 4, 20161 votes

So we're talking, like... Just a bit further back than Quinn's Vault knocks people?

Sugar MommaMar 4, 20161 votes

Yeah, that sounds about right. Somewhere between Quinn and Alistar/Janna.

UltîmaMar 5, 20163 votes

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Yeah, that sounds about right. Somewhere between Quinn and Alistar/Janna.

There's a MASSIVE difference between the knockback capability of all these champions. Giving Karma access to a Janna ult every time her mantra is up would absolutely break her, omg.

If anything, I feel as though the movement speed boost for dispensing a Mantra charge on her E should be greatly increased. Right now it never feels like the right empowered skill to use - this would give Karma great team initiation utility, and probably bring her forward as a competitive support. She is supposed to be the Kite-mage-support. Let her be!

Sugar MommaMar 5, 20161 votes

I said in the post "NOT as much as Janna" and I said "Between quinn and janna/alistar." So not barely knocked back like Quinn's E, but not as far back as Janna/Alistar.