Why does riot keeps making snowbally undodgeable ults?

JuiceBoxP··3 votes·1,881 views

first rengar, now reksai... Why? when ahead they become impossible to deal with.

sure you can zhonya, but early you don't have zhonya and / or you can't build zhonya because you are AD. Also building an early zhonya is very disruptive for certain champs who spike with certain items..

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UnboundHades6 votes

She can't ult you without hitting you first, this is like complaining about a skill shot doing damage because it hit you

JuiceBoxP1 votes

But it is still undodgeable. she can hit you before, but when she is ahead and does a lot of damage you have no counterplay other than hoping her ult won't kill you.

MankeyMadness4 votes

It's her ULTIMATE. It's SUPPOSED to hit you.

If her ult is on CD she can't do a lot of anything meaningful in combat without being turbofed. I guess it's your first time fighting Rek. Understandable since her pick rate is 8 times higher than ever

JuiceBoxP2 votes

You realise that just recently her ult was made undodgeable, right?

and all ULTIMATES are SUPPOSED to hit you, lol, yet you can see how the vast majority of high damage abilities in the game are actually skillshots / have varying degrees of counterplay while her ult really has no counterplay, once casted it is going to hit you. Same with rengar's ult.

if that beast gets fed it's game over.

And no, it's not my first time fighting reksai.... it just baffles me why riot wants some champions to have no outplay.

MankeyMadness1 votes

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You realise that just recently her ult was made undodgeable, right?

and all ULTIMATES are SUPPOSED to hit you, lol, yet you can see how the vast majority of high damage abilities in the game are actually skillshots / have varying degrees of counterplay while her ult really has no counterplay, once casted it is going to hit you. Same with rengar's ult.

if that beast gets fed it's game over.

And no, it's not my first time fighting reksai.... it just baffles me why riot wants some champions to have no outplay.

I didn't say all ults were supposed to. Reksais however, has a limited cast range and requires her to mark you first... and it can still be avoided. Without her Ult up Reksai lacks meaningful tools and kind of stops existing so Yeah she needs to hit with it to be a viable champion.

LetMeAfkPlss1 votes

oh god so the other champs who have dodgeable ultis can go fuck themselves right

The thigh guy3 votes

Counterplay? Never heard of it in this game.

[leblanc-funny]

5050BS2 votes

Meanwhile Caitlyn Camille Chogath Darius Garen Karthus Kayn Lissandra Malzahar Mordekaiser Nautilus Nocturne Skarner Sylas Syndra Talon Veigar Zed

Rathar Dashing1 votes

And also Ahri Brand JarvanIV Leblanc LeeSin Tristana Trundle Twitch Vi Yasuo

MankeyMadness1 votes

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Meanwhile Caitlyn Camille Chogath Darius Garen Karthus Kayn Lissandra Malzahar Mordekaiser Nautilus Nocturne Skarner Sylas Syndra Talon Veigar Zed

Caits ult can be blocked...

Rathar Dashing2 votes

It always hits at least one champion, though.

hrooza dota 1 votes

tbf sylas steal your ulti, so if your ulti is dodgeable you can dodge it.

OtterlyLost1 votes

But... I'm pretty sure you can flash it... the timing is just weird.

The Anivia OTP2 votes

no you cannot , need a 1000 unit flash to escape

The thigh guy3 votes

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But... I'm pretty sure you can flash it... the timing is just weird.

They changed that. Can’t be flashed Anymore. Pretty sure the only champion who can escape is now is Ezreal if he flashes and pre channels his e.

Rathar Dashing1 votes

AD champs can pick up an early stopwatch, then can get GA. If getting a stopwatch allows you to deny a champ kills on you, and allows you to stay in lane for more gold and XP, then it's worth delaying your core slightly.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

stopwatch works once. their ults have a cooldown and then they're up again.

GA has a cooldown of triple if not 4 times the cooldown of a standard ult and it quite fankly is not a counterplay measure for non-dodgeable ults.

Not to mention that if you buy an early GA you are gonna be setting yourself FAR behind your core build.

give me one reason to have this undodgeable mechanic in the game? It is not a healthy mechanic.

Rathar Dashing3 votes

Then build armor? 800 gold on a chain vest negates nearly 6000 gold worth of lethality items on you. If GA allows you to outplay an assassin, it's 100% worth picking up against them, as not only does it negate a lot of their lethality, it lets you survive getting killed by them while the rest of your team blows them up. You don't even lose out on AD by building it.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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Rathar Dashing2 votes

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talking to you honestly feels like a fucking brick wall.

That was uncalled for. I'm not gonna answer any question you ask me if you're just going to be rude.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

What ever man, have a nice day.

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