Revert the f*cking Fizz Rework.

ABlueQuaker··12 votes·1,519 views

I don't even care that you made his R hitbox the width of the lane. I care that the only viable Fizz build is AP Assassin. He was my most-played Champion last season and I probably only played a handful of games as AP Assassin Fizz. It's boring and fairly unhealthy gameplay when it is meta. I played AD, Hybrid, AP Bruiser, AP Off-Tank, AD Bruiser, plus about 10 different builds as 'OP' items (i.e. Rageblade) came in and out of the meta. You could do weird burn builds with DFT + DoT items and a bunch of Flat and % MPen.

Now you just R and mash all of your abilities and hope that you one-shot someone. There's no skill to him anymore. If you outplay someone with your E, you've got not immediate follow-up. I always felt like Fizz was a very reactive champion and now all of that is gone.

And you know what the worst thing is? Even AP Assassin and Full Tank Fizz were in a pretty balanced spot before you reworked them. Riot gave me a giant middle finger with this rework and they refuse to even refund my skins (over the course of the last season I slowly purchased every skin and chroma).

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Magi Mayvin4 votes

Yeah and building him tank/ad and right clicking enemies while using the ult in melee range while dealing the same dmg requires so much skill.

ABlueQuaker3 votes

Post-nerf off-Tank Fizz was pretty healthy at the time that Fizz got reworked.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

Didn't say that it's not healthy, I'm saying that it doesn't require any skill at all, those are 2 different things.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Then why does it matter? It's fun to play every now and then and it can be pretty effective if played right. I don't get the point of your comment. You singled out one of about 10 or so possible old fizz builds and started shittalking it.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

"There's no skill to him anymore." "ANYMORE". That's what I said what I said, the champion never took any skill.Saying that it takes no skill isn't shittalking it's a fact, all u had to do is literally rightclick.It's like saying that warwick doesn't take skill is shittalking Lol.

GarthBrooksXD3 votes

Agreed old fizz was funner

hunterspec3 votes

There's no skill to him anymore.

jizz took skill ever?

Mojihito6663 votes

Agree.

Revert Poppy rework.

ABlueQuaker2 votes

#Just revert it.

Don't try to tweak it. Don't nerf his ult - it's the only ability in his kit that's stopping players from comparing his scaling curve with Shaco's.

Akenero2 votes

Except that it feels horrible to be killed under tower at level 6 if you get hit by a nearly impossible to miss skillshot with incredibly high AP ratios. On top of that, his bleed was cancerous because it did more damage each tick, making it very hard to tell if you would live or not, and was often luck-based whether you got the kill or not unless you were incredibly experienced with him.

He is arguably stronger now, with a reset on w, and much stronger all in at long range since his shark applies w, and after 3 seconds proccing it deals much more damage. He still has all the different builds, just less effective.

RexSaur4 votes

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Except that it feels horrible to be killed under tower at level 6 if you get hit by a nearly impossible to miss skillshot with incredibly high AP ratios. On top of that, his bleed was cancerous because it did more damage each tick, making it very hard to tell if you would live or not, and was often luck-based whether you got the kill or not unless you were incredibly experienced with him.

He is arguably stronger now, with a reset on w, and much stronger all in at long range since his shark applies w, and after 3 seconds proccing it deals much more damage. He still has all the different builds, just less effective.

He is not stronger, he is weaker.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Much weaker, in fact. If his R wasn't so easy to land there would be no reason to ever pick him over any other Assassin or Burst Mage.

redfeenix1 votes

Fizz got reworked?? What changed ?

Calabok1 votes

no leave him as he is except remove that suction cup of an ultimate

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