What's the best thing you can do when you feed?

AR URF··1 votes·453 views

BTW I don't believe in inting as far as how it's used to describe situations. It's like hate-speech. Just because someone says something you don't like, doesn't mean you get to label it hate-speech.

OK moving on. You're 0/4 in lane, now what? You're already getting flamed by your team and know you're just going to have to mute them, but how can you still contribute to the team?

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Cocho2 votes

You just gotta do what you know your champ can do. If you're 0/4 in lane and not confident at what you can still do, probably just look at damage control lol

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

Minimize the damage to the game as a whole. Stall your lane out as best you can, and if you have any form of CC, start looking at your stronger teammates and always plan to try and set THEM up for stuff before trying to get yourself back in the game.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Know what you can do. Know if you can afford to build tanky or not. If you can afford a tanker build, go for it. If not, build the safest build you can. Particularly, go for items like Death's Dance and Black Cleaver for someone like Riven, or Iceborn for juggernauts, or whatever you can get.

Max your defensive abilities. Max your ability to survive. Play from as close to turret as you can. Keep the wave just far enough out so that they can't dive you as safely.

Work on damage control. Try to sneak in and get assists. Work on keeping waves out. Do whatever you can to try to keep them from getting more ahead. Weight the costs and benefits of giving up your outer turret, so that they can start roaming, and you can stop feeding them.

When you start losing, try roaming to a lane that you know you can get an assist in (without dying). Do this before you hit 0/4. Do it at 0/2 at worst.

Most of it involves knowing your champion completely. What you can do on Ahri when behind is vastly different from what you can do on Singed when behind, or from Varus when behind.

Khristophoros1 votes

In my experience if you have a teammate who is intent on flaming you the game is pretty much over. It doesn't matter what you do or say. That player has lost focus on the game and won't make smart decisions. Instead he will constantly hit tab and look at your items and ping them or ? ping you, or ping your champ, etc...

Coming back from behind is a matter of patience and discipline, and a little bit of luck because your team has to not get run over while you catch up. But this is unlikely in a game when your team or even just a single teammate has turned their focus from playing the game to flaming you.

Team morale is really important.

NoobLearninGame1 votes

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In my experience if you have a teammate who is intent on flaming you the game is pretty much over. It doesn't matter what you do or say. That player has lost focus on the game and won't make smart decisions. Instead he will constantly hit tab and look at your items and ping them or ? ping you, or ping your champ, etc...

Coming back from behind is a matter of patience and discipline, and a little bit of luck because your team has to not get run over while you catch up. But this is unlikely in a game when your team or even just a single teammate has turned their focus from playing the game to flaming you.

Team morale is really important.

Although it sucks to do so because you miss out on potentially useful pings.. once they start doing that and it becomes annoying enough, at least you've the choice to mute their pings.

Khristophoros1 votes

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Although it sucks to do so because you miss out on potentially useful pings.. once they start doing that and it becomes annoying enough, at least you've the choice to mute their pings.

It doesn't really matter if you can mute them or not. The problem is this type of player throws any chance of a comeback by focusing on flaming.

NoobLearninGame2 votes

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It doesn't really matter if you can mute them or not. The problem is this type of player throws any chance of a comeback by focusing on flaming.

Well honestly, I've had both scenarios, where (I believe) muting helped us win or didn't, but at least muting helped me enjoy the match as much as possible.

I've been consciously aware of games where I should have muted teammates sooner (or at all) but didn't, and I feel like the game was more likely lost because I felt less willing to try and win after seeing some of the (often ignorant) things one or more of my teammates may have shared.

There are times where I felt like muting (sometimes my whole team) actually allowed us to win, because I played better in certain ways, including by not being distracted by text and other things that took me out of playing optimally.

Other games it won't matter, but having the option to mute can actually help you focus enough to convince at least enough of your team (possibly even the flamer/s) to give that match a chance, often without ever saying a word, but just through the example of your actions in game.

I tend to not talk much in matches and just focus on important information, and I have All Chat turned off by default, since I don't feel like trying to manipulate my enemies into tilting, and there's no other possible useful communication that could happen which would lead me to a win in All Chat (other than enemies giving us information that help our team beat them, like saying someone went afk, assuming they don't come back long enough for us to take advantage).

Yes I miss out on some interesting, funny and/or friendly banter, but overall I feel like it would reduce my enjoyment and performance enough for it to feel worthwhile to keep All Chat off. As a result I probably never see quite a bit of flaming that my allies might put in All Chat, and they neglect to possibly entirely make their feelings known in Team Chat, and if not, at least for the most part (hopefully).

If not, I mute those who probably are only going to do more harm to the team than good if I or others were to respond. If someone on my team who I haven't muted starts bickering back, I might ask them to please just focus on the game, or please stop arguing.

I also benefit from not seeing my adversaries who may be flaming myself or another teammate. Sometimes you get flamed simply for playing a certain champion, whether you're doing well or not, and I find this annoying. It's nice when someone on the other team acknowledges you in a positive way though. :)

I love having the option at least, even if it's pretty much a guaranteed loss, I can enjoy myself significantly more with the option to mute specific players, both their text or their pings separately.

I agree morale is very important, and sometimes it's worth even trying to make games with flamers work towards a victory. Other than sabotaging the game to get it over with sooner (which you're not supposed to do), or asking people to forfeit, my only other option is to play the game I'm stuck in as well as I can (despite whether I like one or more people on my team that match).

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Go mid.

iSpencer1 votes

It depends on your role/champion/the game state. Here are some options:

  1. Modify your build path. A top laner might go tankier, Jhin might go essence reaver/IE/Last Whisper instead of lethality.

  2. Farm under tower and try not to fall too far behind in cs. Your goal is to not die while the strong enemy laner remains in your lane so your team can do stuff elsewhere. Also try not to lose tower, but it's ok if you do.

  3. Opt out of laning phase. You can go roam for a kill/tower elsewhere while your enemy takes your own tower, force a neutral objective with a numbers advantage, ect.

  4. Lane swap. This can be a permanent thing (maybe you opponent built frozen heart and your cassio would wreck him) or a temporary measure to allow you to pick up farm safely while one or two allies cover your tower. Maybe your tower is already gone and you've got plenty of time to be elsewhere while a big wave builds up for you, so you don't even need anyone else to help cover.

Poop Jelly1 votes

Take a deep breath and not going into tilt mode.

Then, try to swap lane, get a fresh start or at least away from your current situation. Try to farm, make smarter decisions, rely MORE on teammates. I've won so many games (esp. these current Zoe games) where I lost lanes as mid or as support but I never got tilted and try to utilize what I can do to contribute into teamfights/roam ganking to make me or teammates stronger.

The WORST thing you can do is trying to fix your situation yourself by kept thinking "Ok that was a mistake, now I'll go back to lane again and have a fresh start" but never takes into consideration of opponent gaining gold, level and confidence to fight or engage on you.

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