Daily reminder that Ezreal is garbage

Cloud273·Nov 21, 2016·3 votes·1,536 views

Mana costs too high, base hp too low, cooldowns too long, and he has literally the WORST waveclear of any adc (just to name a few of his problems). There's absolutely no reason to pick him whatsoever.

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DrCyanideNov 21, 20164 votes

Mana costs too high

Stop spamming your W and your E if you think his mana costs are too high. His Q is dirt cheap, his Ult is the standard price, and his W mana cost scales comparable to other ADC Abilities.

base hp too low

Then stay further back and use your Q?

cooldowns too long

Then actually land your Q? (On anything. Doesn't have to be on champions. Minions don't try to dodge.)

he has literally the WORST waveclear of any adc

Technically Vayne as worse waveclear, since she has no AoE abilities to Ezreal's ult.

There's absolutely no reason to pick him whatsoever.

And yet he still sits in the top 4 most played ADC's at higher ranks. With a 24% pick rate, I don't think it's just mains playing him either.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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Stop spamming your W and your E if you think his mana costs are too high. His Q is dirt cheap, his Ult is the standard price, and his W mana cost scales comparable to other ADC Abilities.

Then stay further back and use your Q?

Then actually land your Q? (On anything. Doesn't have to be on champions. Minions don't try to dodge.)

Technically Vayne as worse waveclear, since she has no AoE abilities to Ezreal's ult.

And yet he still sits in the top 4 most played ADC's at higher ranks. With a 24% pick rate, I don't think it's just mains playing him either.

Name one adc who has an ability that costs more than ezreal's 'e'. Name one adc who's base hp is lower than his. You can't, because there are none! You claim that ezreal is safe, but he doesn't have stealth. As far as safety is concerned, I'd take stealth over that sh*tty blink any day. And he really can't travel that far with it.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 21, 20162 votes

Graves Has 2 abilities which costs 100 mana. Urgot Has higher HP than Ezreal, but still dies fast.

NodirjonSattarovNov 21, 20164 votes

Name an ADC who has an ability that provides a flash every 19-13 seconds which can be further reduced by landing Q. You would think that because of certain aspects of his kit (particularly his flash) they reduced his base health to compensate for him being able to get away every time. Stealth cannot take you over walls. I love how you're complaining about Ezreal because Ezreal has only been problematic since his IBG revolution. I cannot believe you've even considered making this post.

His spells are reduced with every Q he lands, even his Q. This reduction is 1.5 seconds, and while Q is already on a relatively low cooldown it isn't that hard to reduce E cooldown. You're complaining about E cost? 90 mana is hardly anything. 90 mana for 75 / 125 / 175 / 225 / 275 (+ 50% bonus AD) (+ 75% AP) AND a free fucking flash? I've never seen someone complain FOR Ezreal this way before. What are you building for you to complain about mana costs. What are you doing in your games that leave you in situations where you don't have E and you can't land skillshots. This post has to be a joke.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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Name an ADC who has an ability that provides a flash every 19-13 seconds which can be further reduced by landing Q. You would think that because of certain aspects of his kit (particularly his flash) they reduced his base health to compensate for him being able to get away every time. Stealth cannot take you over walls. I love how you're complaining about Ezreal because Ezreal has only been problematic since his IBG revolution. I cannot believe you've even considered making this post.

His spells are reduced with every Q he lands, even his Q. This reduction is 1.5 seconds, and while Q is already on a relatively low cooldown it isn't that hard to reduce E cooldown. You're complaining about E cost? 90 mana is hardly anything. 90 mana for 75 / 125 / 175 / 225 / 275 (+ 50% bonus AD) (+ 75% AP) AND a free fucking flash? I've never seen someone complain FOR Ezreal this way before. What are you building for you to complain about mana costs. What are you doing in your games that leave you in situations where you don't have E and you can't land skillshots. This post has to be a joke.

It's not a "free flash". It costs a f*ckton of mana. Ezreals 'e' is the most expensive non ult move of any adc (except for one of Graves abilities. But even in the case of Graves, it only costs as much as Ezreal's 'e' at max rank. Meanwhile Ezreal has to pay 90 mana for it all game, which is completely ridiculous.). I don't care how good you think the ability is. It shouldn't cost that much.

BladeSteelNov 21, 20165 votes

Vayne's condemn costs 90 mana all game. Corki's w and q cost 100 mana. Sivir's Q costs 110 mana. Twitch E costs 90 mana. Caitlyn Q costs 90 mana. Jhin w costs 90 mana. Jinx W costs 90 mana. Tristana's E costs 90 mana. Varus Q costs 90 mana and his E costs 80. Kog's E costs 120 mana. Graves q costs 100 mana and his w costs 90.

The only adc's who don't have an non ultimate ability with a cost of 90 or more is Miss fortune (her E costs 80 mana), Draven (His E is 70 mana), Quinn (q is 70 mana), Ashe (w is 50 mana), urgot (e is 75 mana), Lucian (q is 70 mana), and kalista (q is 70 mana).

As you can see, its not really that much mana especially since ez should build a tear. You have proven you don't know what you're talking about so...yeah...sorry kid.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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Vayne's condemn costs 90 mana all game. Corki's w and q cost 100 mana. Sivir's Q costs 110 mana. Twitch E costs 90 mana. Caitlyn Q costs 90 mana. Jhin w costs 90 mana. Jinx W costs 90 mana. Tristana's E costs 90 mana. Varus Q costs 90 mana and his E costs 80. Kog's E costs 120 mana. Graves q costs 100 mana and his w costs 90.

The only adc's who don't have an non ultimate ability with a cost of 90 or more is Miss fortune (her E costs 80 mana), Draven (His E is 70 mana), Quinn (q is 70 mana), Ashe (w is 50 mana), urgot (e is 75 mana), Lucian (q is 70 mana), and kalista (q is 70 mana).

As you can see, its not really that much mana especially since ez should build a tear. You have proven you don't know what you're talking about so...yeah...sorry kid.

With at least half the abilities you mentioned, they only cost those amounts at max rank. Meanwhile Ezreal is paying that 90 mana the entire game. It seems like you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. I didn't check all of them, but I can tell you that Sivir's 'q' and Caitlyn's 'q' only cost the amount you listed at max rank.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 21, 20162 votes

The point that still stands is that there still ARE some champions who have high mana cost at level 1 like Ezreal such as Vayne.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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The point that still stands is that there still ARE some champions who have high mana cost at level 1 like Ezreal such as Vayne.

Wow, you can give me ONE example. Vayne has so much damage in her kit her mana costs are completely irrelevant. And Vayne damage is unavoidable. Anyone with half a brain can sidestep Ezreal's abilities. Spamming his abilities over and over again is the ONLY way he wins, and he's not able to do that cuz his abilities cost WAY too much.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 21, 20163 votes

And that is why his blue builds exist. He doesn't gives a shit about mana cost when his Tear build refunds some of the mana spent, plus getting an extra 500 mana with his Gauntlet build which NONE of the ADCs can do (except Urgot with his Frozen Heart build).

Even if you may say he "doesn't do damage", his blue builds made his cooldown pretty low with the combination with his Q passive & also made his Q deals Bortk lifesteal & Gauntlet slows, plus being semi-tanky as well. And all this doesn't stop him from being a 24% pickrate & 49% winrate, and also being a spotlight in Competitive matches.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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And that is why his blue builds exist. He doesn't gives a shit about mana cost when his Tear build refunds some of the mana spent, plus getting an extra 500 mana with his Gauntlet build which NONE of the ADCs can do (except Urgot with his Frozen Heart build).

Even if you may say he "doesn't do damage", his blue builds made his cooldown pretty low with the combination with his Q passive & also made his Q deals Bortk lifesteal & Gauntlet slows, plus being semi-tanky as well. And all this doesn't stop him from being a 24% pickrate & 49% winrate, and also being a spotlight in Competitive matches.

I don't have to say it. You said it for me. Nothing more to say here.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 21, 20166 votes

More like you got nothing left to argue about, leaving to a point that Ezreal is still indeed a good ADC.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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More like you got nothing left to argue about, leaving to a point that Ezreal is still indeed a good ADC.

The facts you just gave say otherwise.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 21, 20163 votes

Mana costs too high, base hp too low, cooldowns too long, and he has literally the WORST waveclear of any adc

I'm mainly answering this, and my comment just now was in reference as "besides he doesn't do damage, he has other good advantage that makes him a good pick".

But other than that, does he do as much damage as a Vayne? Not really. He's more specialize in poke comps rather than a dueling ADC like Vayne or Lucian, so pretty much in the shoes of Varus.

RequiemsfireNov 21, 20162 votes

Just gonna mention he hasn't got a single Ezreal game in the entirety of his match history.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 21, 20161 votes

I mean he does do Ascension Ezreal, but I doubt RGM counts at all since there's special conditions in the match such as bonus gold & different item settings.

BladeSteelNov 21, 20161 votes

Did i say they cost 90 mana all game? when did i say that? you said "Ezreals 'e' is the most expensive non ult move of any adc" and I proved you wrong. Holy crap you are stupid and arrogant. Grow up kid. You have been proven wrong. Admit it and grow up.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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Did i say they cost 90 mana all game? when did i say that? you said "Ezreals 'e' is the most expensive non ult move of any adc" and I proved you wrong. Holy crap you are stupid and arrogant. Grow up kid. You have been proven wrong. Admit it and grow up.

You didn't exactly prove me wrong. You didn't tell the whole story. You chose to omit the part about most of those abilities being cheaper at earlier ranks.

BladeSteelNov 21, 20161 votes

you said, once again "Ezreals 'e' is the most expensive non ult move of any adc". I proved that wrong multiple times. It isn't my fault you're too stupid to be able to read. Goodbye kid. Hope someday you grow up.

DrCyanideNov 21, 20161 votes

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Name one adc who has an ability that costs more than ezreal's 'e'.

Corki. His W costs 100 mana right off there bat compared to Ezreal's 90 mana for E.

Name one adc who's base hp is lower than his.

Max level he's only 27 HP behind Ashe, I really don't see how that is a huge problem.

You can't, because there are none!

You're only half right, I got 1. Someone always has to have the lowest stats in something, and Ezreal seems fine to have the lowest bar health.

You claim that ezreal is safe, but he doesn't have stealth. As far as safety is concerned, I'd take stealth over that sh*tty blink any day.

lol, what? Let's get this straight, your definition of safe ADCs are Vayne when she has her ult up and tumbles, and Twitch after he has channeled?

And he really can't travel that far with it.

A good Ezreal will never get pulled in by a Blitzcrank because of that dash, even if Blitzcrank lands his Q.

Ezreal's E can get him over terrain and away from pursuers in a moment's notice, which gets him to safety far more times than Twitch's channeled Stealth or Vayne's ult dependent Invisibility can do.

EndlessSorcererNov 21, 20161 votes

Name one adc who has an ability that costs more than ezreal's 'e'

Corki's W costs 100 mana while Ezreal's E costs 90. Simple enough.

You claim that ezreal is safe, but he doesn't have stealth.

Long range and a blink can continue through CC is generally more reliable than stealth. Even ignoring the instantaneous movement, the ability to bypass walls or projectiles is very useful.

SirPurrrNov 21, 20162 votes

Fervor nerfs hurt him but he's still OK. Many ADCs got hit by that. An ADC like Trist got hit by it even harder since she has a huge AS steroid and could stack it way faster than Ez. She also uses Runaan's and can potentially apply it to 3 people. Runaan's does reduced AD damage on side bolts though so it works much better with on-hits.

khorneyNov 21, 20162 votes

umm guy have u seen varus...

RequiemsfireNov 21, 20162 votes

Not gonna lie, I play some ADC every now and again, I practice a lot, and Ezreal is one of the easier and more reliable picks in the game. How do people even remotely reach the notion that he's trash when he's one of the best.

ViiLLAiNNov 21, 20161 votes

ezreal is trash but still the safest adc and brings utlitiy with item 3025 and thats the main reason he is played

Plastic Mem0riesNov 21, 20161 votes

Ezreal really isn't trash. He's a poke ADC that if you get your build fast - can destroy anything IF you land your skillshots.

He's a sort of risk/reward ADC. If you can't land your skillshots, gg.

Otherwise, go play Lucian where all you have to do is press abilities and then auto.

Or vayne

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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Ezreal really isn't trash. He's a poke ADC that if you get your build fast - can destroy anything IF you land your skillshots.

He's a sort of risk/reward ADC. If you can't land your skillshots, gg.

Otherwise, go play Lucian where all you have to do is press abilities and then auto.

Or vayne

That's what I'm saying. For the amount of skill it takes to play him, he simply isn't rewarding enough. You should actually be rewarded for landing your skillshots.

RequiemsfireNov 21, 20161 votes

You mean one of the best ADC's in the game isn't rewarding enough? Do you want a cake with that ice cream?

JQKAndreiNov 21, 20161 votes

Something high risk should be rewarding, not spamming skills from half screen away.

RequiemsfireNov 21, 20161 votes

Well there's no real risk, I mean Varus punishes more for missing skill shots with higher mana costs and no mobility. :O

QuephaNov 21, 20161 votes

I literally pick the first recent pro game I can think of and Ezreal is sitting there on the screen as a pick. You don't know what you're talking about.

Cloud273Nov 21, 20161 votes

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I literally pick the first recent pro game I can think of and Ezreal is sitting there on the screen as a pick. You don't know what you're talking about.

Did they win that game? I'm assuming they didn't, since he's a garbage champ.

QuephaNov 21, 20162 votes