Remember when bruisers could actually survive teamfights to have an impact?

Dasdi96··5 votes·516 views

The only bruisers that can function in teamfights are those with frontloaded kits that make them have an impact with just 1 rotation of spells, but the ones that rely on dealing damage throughout a long fight, they can't because they blow up from the enemy adc's bps.

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DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

The only bruisers that can function in teamfights are those with frontloaded kits that make them have an impact with just 1 rotation of spells

So...all of them that people actually remember exist? Like, as long as you're not looking at Aatrox or Skarner, that's every single bruiser.

they can't because they blow up from the enemy adc's bps.

Look. Don't use this unironically. There is literally no such thing, and it makes you sound like an idiot. There is burst, and there is DPS. Some champions have a bit of both. But they are not the same, they never overlap, and they certainly do not combine.

Elkington1 votes

If defense scaled even half as well as damage this wouldn't be such an issue.

There are a ton of %based increases to damage in this game, but very little ways to mitigate damage outside of what a champ's kit provides. Most bruisers can't opt for full defense in-game without sacrificing damage (tanks don't have to worry about this while also having much cheaper itemization). Therefore, more mitigation has to come from runes or bruisers are going to continue to struggle and be replaced by tanks.

EX: %aoe damage reduction/%crit damage reduction (we need keystones like this to return)

BALDG1VEN BOOMER2 votes

Tbh the more CC that keeps being added to this game the more useless they’ll become.

Sasogwa1 votes

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Tbh the more CC that keeps being added to this game the more useless they’ll become.

Yeaah but at the same time CC would be less powerful if you didn't die within the duration of it (damage too high), and it had a higher cooldown in general.

AirKingNeo2 votes

Remember when tanks didn't perma CC people and win lane? Remember when tanks that won lane could be outscaled?

Remember when ADCs didn't need absurd damage to deal with absurd tanks and vice-versa?

Lauchmelder3 votes

No, I don't remember.

ADCs are supposed to be DPS, not burst (well most of the times) And tanks are supposed to have a buttload of CC. Sion is a good example of a tank well done.

AirKingNeo2 votes

Cool. I don't give a fuck is tanks are supposed to have a stack of CC. They still CC too much. Not sure where the boards got the mentality where someone can't do their job too well, but I've seen it just enough to be pissed off.

Sion doesn't have a lot of CC. He has a slow or knockup, a slow, a slow, and knockup; a lot of soft CC. He's got long cooldowns too. Now, other tanks should be like Sion (without the high base damage).

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

I honestly can’t take anyone who says “bps” unironically seriously. Do you realize how uninformed and lacking of balance knowledge that makes you sound?

FooDang1 votes

Sorry bro, I cant take anyone that plays URF seriously.

Friendly Ram1 votes

Singed What are rotations?

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