What supports do you think are to team reliant to climb?

Kai Guy··1 votes·1,994 views

Grinding a new account to 30. Apparently I need to show its possible as many players are dissatisfied with me constantly telling people that Supports make impact on the game, its more then picking some hypercarry to climb, and personal impact is a consistent factor for any given player.

So, Who exactly do you guys think are so team reliant they lack any agency on match outcomes?

15 Comments

Death by Glamour1 votes

Generally enchanters bar nami. If your adc is terrible there is not much you can do as say janna or soraka. Nami atleast has cc so can do what several tank supports do with bad adcs, buy mobis and roam.

NoPaxt1 votes

Braum Leona Soraka Rakan Yuumi Taric

I'm sure there another one or two that I'm not recalling, but these rely on a good team.

Kai Guy1 votes

I already did yuumi on this account. Climbed in flex silver to gold as a solo. Some impossible games but only took 80 ish matches to go up 3-4 divisions. And I had prior games so my k variable was reduced. Also was still learning her kit.

NoPaxt1 votes

Most low level ADCs don't play well with a Yuumi, although get yourself on a quality tank or bruiser....

Kai Guy1 votes

I had to get good at detatching to bodyblock alot of skillshots to artificially pump my adcs Hp up then trigger passive and sheild them for extra hp. The entire climb it was a relief if I got to have good front line players. Jax kayne mundo and uyders for example gave me more windows for impact.

AlienPrimate2 votes

Taric is actually better the lower elo you are because of his ultimate. People don't know how to deal with it in low elo. The higher you go the faster people disengage when they see it.

Kai Guy1 votes

Playing him today and man he Brutal in level 14 games. Not just the R. Teammates and enemy's often run in very predictable lines so nailing E Is easy. Folks dive for kills so constantly refreshing passive and Q is easy.

Smurf detections been kicking thankfully so see how it goes.

CurS1VE1 votes

Tk and Braum are the 2 champs you are looking for, not enchanters at all.

Braum can be good the higher you get but if you are trying to climb from a low elo then it's absolutely a horrid pick.

TK is similar where it is good higher elo but it's basically useless low elo

The biggest things here are that there are limited ways you contribute to a team that aren't upfront or easy to execute.

I climbed from B3 with Zyra and Zilean (a lil galio too) but generally speaking the lower the elo the more you need to rely on carry supports and less about weird defensive tank supports and Braum and TK are essentially the only 2 Tank supports that are really Defensive (limited offensive capabilities)

In lower elo you have way less consistent players who are less consistent with carrying so the idea of using something that is lane dominate as a support is always good, Braum CAN be lane dominate if he has a good ADC to follow up but if not then it's gonna be a long day. TK may as well build full tank after he gets his support item cause most of the support items on him are really lackluster and his team fight capability is so bad.

If you want to show off or something then start in iron with those 2 and see how difficult it is then i'd love to watch that cause honestly i don't think you'll win very many games and i could see a 20% WR in your future easily

Tahminatrix 1 votes

From my personal experience, tahm kench in low elo is the tanky equivalent of an ap support.

Except instead of bursting the entire enemy team you are focusing one person in every group fight to make sure they cant do anything.

Really good if your team is almost as capable as the enemy team but doesn`t know how to deal with a specific champion / are feeding that champion, like pantheon.

Support Position1 votes

All supports are team reliant to the max. If you have a brain dead team. You lose.

Lux Brand Zyra Velkoz Xerath Zoe - Just carry yourself. Everyone is a mountain.

Kai Guy1 votes

Edit. I am looking for Who you think is the very most reliant. My intent is to show how personal impact and constancy reward players. Trying to walk my talk. Throw some champs You think are stand out.

Support Position1 votes

Sure.

EDIT: all enchanters or anything that was made to actually be a support.

Janna Lulu Braum Soraka Yuumi Taric Rakan Bard

Only ACTUAL champions that on design were supports that are okish: Thresh Alistar Sona Nami (Even Nami is pretty team reliant that she can't carry a team if you got monkeys.)

Only support thats a "support" that needs no team Pyke

Kai Guy1 votes

Should I do back to back games or cycle thru champuons constantly?

Support Position1 votes

I feel like that depends on situations. I almost never play the same champion twice even though I probably should. Though I play weird things bot.

Swain Sejuani Amumu have been added to my roster, but that doesn't mean you should play them xP

The problem with supporting is a lot of adcs dont know how to attack move, use wards, use map, farm properly after lane etc etc. So your constantly pushed in sidelanes due to it.

IF YOU are looking to carry games I would highly recommend playing mage "supports" Lux Brand Zyra Karma Morgana Neeko The reason for this is after lane. You can take all the CS you want. Period. Since no one else is in low elo (including gold.)

But if your someone that is wanting to hard carry in the way of "haha my team can't die and it seems you guys are dying" Nami Yuumi (Takes a while.)

Need a tank? Alistar TahmKench (Be careful with the catfish. Been nerfed so much its really hard to play him now.) Thresh (Pretty tanky if you can gather souls.)

The real problem is, support as a role realize SO HEAVILY on your team not to be clicking on the wrong player to kill etc.

Also MASSIVE note: If you're going to play a melee tank support (Alistar Like Alistar for instance. item 3302 DO NOT buy this item. item 3301 ALWAYS this item. Coin is DOUBLE or more in terms of how fast you obtain gold. After lane you'll never obtain gold ever again with Relic. DO NOT buy the item. If your a mage you can buy item 3303 but make sure to only buy it if your confident you're gonna win lane.)

Also another tip: Support is the carry of botlane. Not the adc. You're the one that has to do all the work. Its very annoying as well. So if your not getting kills and such and they are. The support is probably the problem. Anyhow, some games it will be impossible to win your lane due to the match up some are easy lanes. Hope some of this helps! [slayer-jinx-catface]

Kai Guy1 votes

The entire point is to climb with the champions people claim are "way to team reliant to climb or carry games" with.

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