Will nocturne ever get another buff?

Predatore·Sep 19, 2015·2 votes·658 views

I mean, his ult is fine. But its just that in teamfights, he dives in trying to kill the carry and is basically dead. No escapes.

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3tysonSep 19, 20151 votes

doesnt that basicly means dont teamfight but use him in a splitpush combo?

CrosleeSep 19, 20151 votes

I really don't understand. You want him to just be able to "escape" after ulting in? similarly to Vi, malphite, etc. once noc goes in, he is in, which is why you build him tanky. He is a bruiser, not an assassin

PredatoreSep 19, 20151 votes

Not be able to just instant escape but at least have some kind of way out. He has no actual escape from anyone other than maybe spellshielding. Lets say Shyvana ults in, she simply activates that ability which gives her a HUGE movement speed buff. Nocturne can q but it has a short cast time and doesnt give nearly enough MS

KONO RUBICK DASep 19, 20151 votes

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I really don't understand. You want him to just be able to "escape" after ulting in? similarly to Vi, malphite, etc. once noc goes in, he is in, which is why you build him tanky. He is a bruiser, not an assassin

he is an assassin, his base stats are shit he can't tank and can only block one random spells every 15 sec. He was designed as an assassin hard carry with offensive steroid. And for 1 years he was really good at doing it.

HaIlMonitorSep 19, 20151 votes

He is supposed to be an Assassin but with a build such as item 3931 item 3153 item 3071 item 3065 item 3742 item 3111 He will be able to blow up any squishy and still be able to live long enough to do it. If you want to play assassin noc do it from mid lane.

KONO RUBICK DASep 19, 20151 votes

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He is supposed to be an Assassin but with a build such as He will be able to blow up any squishy and still be able to live long enough to do it. If you want to play assassin noc do it from mid lane.

no he won't, he gets nothing from cdr, he gets nothing from full defensive items. compared to all other bruisers who scale with cdr.

Did you play season one nocturne?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrwt97AH54 4:30 THAT's WHAT IS blowing squishy

HaIlMonitorSep 19, 20151 votes

Why would't you want cdr? Every assassin wants it. Zed/talon/LB build it even though there target is usually dead before skills are back off of CD. His ult is still at a 60 second CD at 40% CDR which is a long time when you are fighting over objectives in late game.

WolfChasesSep 19, 20152 votes

And than you realize that he deals no damage if built like bruiser comparing to all other bruisers lol....

jpf31Sep 19, 20151 votes

thats because of the retarded meta we are in. Dont play it and play something like darius, garen, yasuo zed

DreadlocksSep 20, 20151 votes

Very few champions i know can build Full damage and still team fight. Most of the time they are designed for split pushing or skirmishes if thats how you want to build them. A good example of this is Lee Sin. He has really strong scalings 90% on Q 100% on E(Turns to magic ik) and then 200% on R, meaning if you play him full damage and split push, you are a huge 1v1 threat. But if you try to dive into a 5v5 with the same build, you will get blown up, so generally if you are going to team fight with a full damage build on lee sin, you best stay back and be careful with how you fight it.

TL;DR in most cases bruisers can be played as assassins if you change your play style or team strategy. However, in most cases given a 5v5 team fight, you will need to build defensively as well to make best use of your spells and not get blown up. -This is no different for Vi, Nocturne, Lee Sin or Pantheon for some examples-