Please raise Lissandra's base damage and lower her AP ratios

1 800 GGTOOEZ·Oct 25, 2015·2 votes·536 views

So she can be played support.

10 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWOct 25, 20152 votes

She's never meant to be a support, your thread is like wanting Amumu's base AD to increase so that he can be played ADC.

1 800 GGTOOEZOct 25, 20151 votes

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She's never meant to be a support, your thread is like wanting Amumu's base AD to increase so that he can be played ADC.

The only thing stopping her from being a viable support is bases. Your change would not make Amumu a viable ADC - ADCs are ranged and most have relatively low base damage compared to melee champions.

BeatzBoyFTWOct 25, 20151 votes

For people wanting to play off-meta champs, it's the player's playstyle that makes it work, not the champion's stat.

Riot never meant for Lissandra to become a support at any kind, also another good example would be the Ekko & Tahm Kench jungle, or even the rare Leona Jungle pick. They were made viable due to their creativity, as in they somehow made it work without the help of Riot adjusting the base stats for an off-meta lane. You on the other hand, sucked pretty much bringing Liss Support, and now depends on Rito to help your sorry ass to boost stats for you.

redniwediSOct 25, 20152 votes

I'll be honest, if this happened I would immediately play her as a top lane tank. Forget her ability to support, if she has farm and tank items her CC can control a fight easy enough. Give her damage on top of that and she can effectively lane as a tank.

Leblancs BoobOct 25, 20151 votes

Why

1 800 GGTOOEZOct 25, 20151 votes

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Why

To increase the variety of support options while not making her mid lane overpowered.

Leblancs BoobOct 25, 20153 votes

So basically remove her from solo lanes entirely and make her a support. There's simply no reason to.

1 800 GGTOOEZOct 25, 20151 votes

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So basically remove her from solo lanes entirely and make her a support. There's simply no reason to.

If you do it right, she can be both, see Kennen/Lulu

MarthianOct 25, 20151 votes

You mean Kennen that has similar issues to Annie (high damage, high utility) He's even worse to lane against since he has no meaningful resource gate on poking you.

Or Lulu where she just craps on her lane opponent due to damage and turning away almost all aggression?

We already have a lot of support choices (Lissandra can go support the same way Zyra, Lux, and Brand can go support.)

ZephyrDrakeOct 25, 20151 votes

Liss won't become a support because of her mana costs. Her W is very short ranged and the root duration is too short and she is not tanky at all so having 2 champions hit you while you try to root them is just asking to feed over and over.

Increasing her base damages while lowering her ratios won't make her a decent support. Increasing her root duration, lowering the mana costs, lowering the CDs somewhat are all needed in order for her to be a reliable support and not a thing that can work once in a blue moon. Lissandra's ratios aren't even that high so lowering it further while increasing her bases will just make her be stronger in solo lanes until she builds tons of AP (unless your objective is to butcher her ratios in which case she will suck even while being a support)