Bring back pink wards or at least make control wards reveal stealthed champs

koshkyra··18 votes·7,242 views

It'd be nice to have counterplay to the invisible Shaco Khazix Talon who is 0.5 seconds away from oneshotting me with a item 3147. Especially now that we're in an assassin meta.

Plus tbh they looked better

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EvilUnicornLord5 votes

Perhaps rather than having item 3364 just giving a red outline of enemy champions, make them completely visible? Warnings aren't bad, but you can't hit them with auto-attacks or point-and-click abilities until AFTER they destroy you.

Anin7774 votes

Oracles used to reveal stealthed champs but was nerfed to the ground. Go figure.

RainXBlade2 votes

I remember back in season 5 when you could upgrade your warding trinket to instead of planting your standard ward, it gave you a vision ward.

Anin7771 votes

Yup. Really good time. People complained that it was too hard of a counter but truth is, All invisible champs still had decent - great winrates.

LTK KoRo1 votes

The problem was that invis champs like Talon or Shaco were rampaging in low elo, but were totally useless/relegated to splitpush duty only in diamond and above

Anin7771 votes

Won't say "useless" in high elo. They weren't as carefree as they were in low elo. In high elo, only the people who mained with them could pull them off and that was fine cos that's the highest levels of play.

LTK KoRo1 votes

They were relegated to splitpush duty in high elo in 95% of games really. That doesn't sound like something that assassin should do

Anin7771 votes

I feel you. I remember Zed was predominantly a splitpusher. Not going to lie, I actually liked that playstyle. But to each his own.

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

There's also the option of making it like Heroes of the Storm where stealthed champions have a small silhouette so you can tell that they are there.

NY641 votes

Personally I didn’t like having to use up an item slot in the late game to have a pink ward just to stop these champions from going invisible but I’m also not a fan of not being able to target the champ at all. For example when vayne goes invisible when pressing R, I’m not really frustrated that I can’t see her but I’m frustrated that I can’t target her. I think what they should do is make invisibility a one time thing instead of being able to constantly go invisible like vayne or kha zix does. That or just make item 3364 reveal the champion so you can target them.

º Kindred º1 votes

what? a way of countering stealth assasins? THIS POST IS PURE HARAM AND SHALL BE VANISHED BY THE NAME OF THE QURAN!

LTK KoRo1 votes

Your main is currently a best jungler in a game who also shits on every assassin and tank, but yeah, let's complain about these pesky stealth assassins

º Kindred º1 votes

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Your main is currently a best jungler in a game who also shits on every assassin and tank, but yeah, let's complain about these pesky stealth assassins

they JUST got one of the best they were before mediocre or even bad with a w/r of 46% and had extremely low pickrates, i've played them for literally over a year.... and now im not even allowed to post on something that has been a problem for far too long? k then i guess. oh and lets not forget, after they got good they got directly a nerf next patch while duskblade and all the other shit has not been touched for a decate. So theres that

LTK KoRo1 votes

and any kind of buffs to kindred was a mistake. Kindred should stay in gutter, when she's strong she warps entire jungle around her and crowd out junglers more than a anyone. Having the best dueling and scaling in jungle is a shitty combo to play against, combined with game-changing ult, which works also a anti-burst ult, in case you managed to catch kindred out of position. Just make her go back to 46% winrate

And if you truly believe that stealth/duskblade is a bigger problem than a kindred state before 8.15, then you're really biased

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø1 votes

As a Shaco player myself, i support this,this would allow for Shaco to be reverted and be fun while still having counterplay

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