Can somebody tell me what Riven's weakness is?

IsIsGankedParis··4 votes·1,446 views

She has great mobility mixed with a lot of damage, don't see a lot of champs like that.

She has low cooldowns and scales immensely with cdr.

Her shield scales with AD, meaning she gets tankier with more damage built.

She has 2 steroids, her passive and her ult.

She has a ranged aoe execute.

She has 2 forms of CC

Resourceless

Now I didn't lose to a Riven just now which is why I'm QQing about Riven, but from making Darius threads, the thing I have seen is that everybody seems to say "If you get in range of Darius, you are dead"

Isn't Riven the same thing? She gets in range of you and you're fucked.

Darius doesn't have the mobility to catch up to you like Riven can, Riven also has MORE DAMAGE than Darius EARLY game. Riven is better than Darius in every category except he has true damage and Riven doesn't.

But with the amount of damage Riven can dish out, combined with her mobility, and her lack of a resource, it doesn't amount to squat.

Riven is supposed to be scared of Darius in her lore, wtf why she would rape him.

Riven is stronger than Darius at all stages of the game, yet he is QQ'd about more.

What is this champions weakness?

14 Comments

redniwediS3 votes

If you look at a champion's strengths in a vacuum like you're doing here it can be difficult to see weaknesses. Most champions have weaknesses that overlap their strengths in some way, so any weakness provided as a reply can be ignored by focusing on that strength.

Instead of focusing on her strengths try looking at champions who are known to do well against her, and look at what exactly makes it that way.

Crushed lil kid3 votes

The problem with riven is not her strengths but her lack of viable counters Darius was a wonderful counter pick prenerfs as was Olaf or even garen but because of Various champion nerfs and item nerfs she has become almost impossible to counter

redniwediS2 votes

Garen is still a great pick against her. Most people don't seem to think so because they treat Garen as an all out counter, get overconfident, die in lane, and end up facing a fed Riven. That or they don't understand how your job changes throughout the game when it comes to keeping Riven shut down.

ScreamPaste1 votes

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LoRdJeSuS69694203 votes

Just kill her...she is squishy and dies so easily. CC her and blow her up in teamfights. Listing all the shit she does doesn't make her OP. You can make a big list of things for any champion.

One simple tip is not to use your CDs on her shield. It has a tiny duration, wait it out and then hit her with your spells.

BluePolarizer2 votes

Riven is exclusively melee, squishy and has no sustain, which means that poke champs beat her in laning phase. Its kind of telling how she loses to Pantheon in lane even though Pantheon is supposed to be weak to resourceless champs with shields like Shen and Lee Sin.

WarlockLaw2 votes

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stealthfox941 votes

Riven really doesn't outdamage Darius early game her CD for the most part is longer to she's also a lot squishier. Not to mention Darius kind of takes a dump on her in the laning phase.

LuluInWonderland1 votes

She blows up when CC'd or behind. Like kat, yi, etc., CC her and she falls apart quickly.

IsIsGankedParis2 votes

Don't all champs that build nearly only damage blow up when CC'd?

redniwediS1 votes

Not all, but enough do that your point still stands.

LuluInWonderland1 votes

Well yes, but she should build some defense or she's not being a fighter properly. The issue is she's still pretty squishy and relies on doing damage to stay alive. Also, she needs to put herself in danger range to do her work. CC'ing her stops both. This is different than like an off-tank since CC is nice but usually wasted in a teamfight against them since they don't blow up and don't rely on doing damage to stay alive.

Troy2426211 votes

Honestly? I won't feed you the "CS her," shtick. Her weakness is that she has some pretty watered down numbers. I remember reading somewhere that her designer recognized her kit was highly overloaded, and gave her lower numbers to make her more of a kit-strong late game champion.

The balance team if I remember correctly didn't keep her numbers low on release but over time they'v been toned down strongly. Point being, she has some cheesey levels (Like 6 holy s***) but save for those she really isn't that spectacular.

Keep in mind that I do not play with/against her frequently, this is just my take looking at her and trying to be objective.

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