Cait is seriously broken right now.

WoonStruck··6 votes·821 views

Warlord's, Runaan's, and her passive+crit is a broken interaction that needs to be fixed. I seriously just watched her heal 1/2 of her health with a single auto.

That is not balanced.

Her traps just make her obnoxious alongside that.

The siege-queen should not be able to face-tank you. That is lack of counterplay. The counterplay is supposed to be getting onto her, but that doesn't even work at this point.

Gut this champion, please. Ever since the Marksmen rework, she's been an overloaded mess.


Headshot should interact with crit the same way Shaco's new backstab does. Whichever deals highest damage takes priority. They should not stack in any way, shape, or form.

Warlord's needs to be nerfed to 1/2 its current values.

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Abishai 772 votes

I don't think cait needs nerfing

WoonStruck5 votes

And why do you say that?

She's one of the strongest marksmen right now, and all of the strongest marksmen are considered to need nerfing right now.

Brain Errör 4042 votes

As a Vayne main, people wanted her neutered. I couldn't disagree that she was slightly overtuned, cause she was. She got a nerf, and people still want her neutered. I'm having a hard time seeing what more people could possibly want when you have adcs like Jhin, Cait and Ez running around.

Martensitic1 votes

And that opinion is based on what data exactly?

Oh, on nothing? Well then I guess you are wrong.

WoonStruck2 votes

And that opinion is based on what data exactly?

Oh, on nothing? Well then, I guess you are wrong.


See how that works? You can agree, but you have to have a reason to refute/agree with a point. Just saying "you're wrong" isn't a good argument at all.

Martensitic2 votes

but you have to have a reason to refute/agree with a point.

  • Easy to play
  • Little to no counterplay in lane
  • Extremely safe early, strong in midgame
  • Facilitates turret pressure with an uncounterable ability (Traps)
  • Requires no commitment on part of the player
  • New Headshot mechanic completely removed the need to do any kind of combo to do well with
  • Makes the botlane meta completely boring

Basically, all the advantages, and little to no disadvantages.


Just becauase I do not bother listing points that should be obvious for everyone above Bronze IV, doesn't mean I don't have them.

And in case you didn't notice, genius, I am argueing IN FAVOR OF YOUR POST here.

WoonStruck1 votes

I completely agree, and I knew that you were agreeing with me.

However, "You're wrong" is not the argument you should be putting out. Describing the points you have above let people know how overloaded she is instead of refusing to accept the truth because they're miffed at how you came across.


She's the Garen of ADCs as far as how easy and reliable she is against anything in range (even if her range is much harder to stay out of). She should not have the uncounterable pressure she currently has. Everybody needs to know that and realize that she needs nerfs.

Martensitic1 votes

However, "You're wrong" is not the argument you should be putting out.

Here is some free advise that will help you during your entire life: ´

#Morons will ALWAYS ask for proof/evidence/arguments, no matter how many times they have already been written, spoken, shown on TV or projected into the night sky and no matter how little, if any, they presented themselves.

They do this to drag on every discussion, and when you let it happen, they will argue every little point you made, no matter how many time these selfsame arguments have already been gone over. They are aware that they have sh1t and will thus drown any discussion that way. And in the end, when the politically correct people are away, or fed up with their BS and leave, they will claim victory.

This is how morons work. This is how a morons mind works in a diskussion.

Why does that work? Because the outside people, who the ones discussing want to convince, are dumb. A herd of dumb, gullible, influencable sheep. "Baaaaaaaah! Baaaaaaaaah!" <<-- That's most people. They are too stupid to see through a morons strategy. They are too uneducated to know that the argument was made 1000 times over and 1000 times lost b ythe moron.

And in the end, these sheeple agree with the one who "looked like he won". Facts matter, but sadly, so does dominance over your opponent these days.

And that's why intelligent people need to stop being "politically correct". A moron is not worth repeating arguments for. A moron is only worth being publicly ridiculed, shut down and ignored.

If you want to win arguments, you have to play the game by its rules.

DestructoDave2 votes

Her traps are annoying. I cannot stand facing her.

Personally, I think the first nerf she needs, is losing the auto headshot on E. Trap headshots are bad enough, but even if you manage to get on her, she will just E out-trade you with a headshot. It should just go back to being a slowing escape.

I mean Lucian has an E that does nothing but dash now.

But yea, I'm tired of getting onto a mis-positioned Cait for her to just E, slow you, and out-trade you with a free headshot and probably another Long range parting Auto.

That would be the first thing that needs to go. If she is going to be the Seige Queen, she needs to get punished when you get on her.

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