Talon nerfs but Diana is still touchable

blfUvZ8Ybu·Feb 28, 2016·2 votes·906 views

Why?

29 Comments

Pentarina OnlyFeb 28, 20162 votes

Because Talon needed a nerf with the new item 3147

And Diana is still a very under-powered champ?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Because Talon needed a nerf with the new

And Diana is still a very under-powered champ?

Diana has higher win and pick rate.

Absurdity.

Also both haven't escape skill.

Also Talon hasn't tankiness.

Diana underpowered? Nice joke.Diana has the most broken kit in this game.

mogonkFeb 28, 20163 votes

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Diana has higher win and pick rate.

Nope.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Nope.

No.Or are you blind?

mogonkFeb 28, 20162 votes

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No.Or are you blind?

Diana has a 49% winrate. Talon's is 51%. Talon's pickrate is higher as well.

I am not blind. Are you?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Diana has a 49% winrate. Talon's is 51%. Talon's pickrate is higher as well.

I am not blind. Are you?

High pick rate? I'm not blind.Are you?

mogonkFeb 28, 20162 votes

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High pick rate? I'm not blind.Are you?

Diana's popularity is 6%. Talon's is 7%. You're really bad at reading statistics, huh?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Diana's popularity is 6%. Talon's is 7%. You're really bad at reading statistics, huh?

Diana's popularity 9. Talon 6. Nice lie Diana main.

Continuous lie.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Diana's popularity is 6%. Talon's is 7%. You're really bad at reading statistics, huh?

Also Talon's kit is fine.But Diana's kit is toxic.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Diana has a 49% winrate. Talon's is 51%. Talon's pickrate is higher as well.

I am not blind. Are you?

Also Talon 46% win rate Diana 49%. (Plat+)

http://champions.pickban.com/

Are you blind?

mogonkFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Also Talon 46% win rate Diana 49%. (Plat+)

http://champions.pickban.com/

Are you blind?

haha, so after your original statement is proved wrong you make up a new one and pretend that's what you were saying all along

the stats on the page you linked are still wrong though, Diana's winrate in plat+ is 45%, talons is 52%

do you feel stupid yet?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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haha, so after your original statement is proved wrong you make up a new one and pretend that's what you were saying all along

the stats on the page you linked are still wrong though, Diana's winrate in plat+ is 45%, talons is 52%

do you feel stupid yet?

Nice belly dancer.No argument :)

Diana's win rate 49%. Talon's win rate 46 for plat+. Are you blind? Hahahaha. You don't deny your wrong argument :)

mogonkFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Nice belly dancer.No argument :)

Diana's win rate 49%. Talon's win rate 46 for plat+. Are you blind? Hahahaha. You don't deny your wrong argument :)

Okay, keep making up numbers kid. You've already been proved wrong, nobody cares about your whining.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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Okay, keep making up numbers kid. You've already been proved wrong, nobody cares about your whining.

Nobody cares you and to your op champions.So you continue free elo.

mogonkFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Nobody cares you and to your op champions.So you continue free elo.

freelo on a champion with a 45% winrate in plat+

lmao what are you even talking about kid

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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freelo on a champion with a 45% winrate in plat+

lmao what are you even talking about kid

49%.Overall 52.Soloq champion and broken kit but not free elo?

Bad mathematic, bad lie, bad calculation.

Diana needs rework or nerfs.

Because heavy snowball and 1 kill for Diana=3-4 kills for other champion

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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freelo on a champion with a 45% winrate in plat+

lmao what are you even talking about kid

Also you constantly tell lies.

45% only your lies or your dream.

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 28, 20162 votes

"data will be unreliable for about 3 days due to small sample size"

are you?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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"data will be unreliable for about 3 days due to small sample size"

are you?

But your argument is reliable? No.

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 28, 20162 votes

maybe if you actually knew how to play talon, you would know why he's stronger than diana

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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maybe if you actually knew how to play talon, you would know why he's stronger than diana

Only your argument? Diana is stronger than Talon.

Also Diana has broken kit but Talon hasn't.

EreldraFeb 28, 20163 votes

The give us a source for your claim, please?

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Middle Talon: 53,07% Win, 6% Pickrate Diana (Mid): 49.7% Win, 4.42% Pickrate Diana (Jungle): 49.56% Win, 3.3% Pickrate

In Diamond+: Talon: 53.9% Win, 5.7% Pickrate Diana (Mid): 51.2%, 2,8% Pickrate Diana (Jungle): 46.7% (!) Win, 1.5% Pickrate

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/middle/bronze/by-winrate Talon: 52.3% Win, 6,5% Pickrate Diana (Mid): 51.6% Win, 4.0% % Pickrate Diana (Jungle): 51.4% Win, 2.3% Pickrate

Diana has not a higher Win nor Pickrate than Talon on neither of both sites, your claim is simply wrong and Diana is obviously not overpowered according to winrates. And we all know, you love these winrates as prove, but in this case, you don't even have that going for you. Talon however defintely deserve these nerfs. Case closed ^_^

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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The give us a source for your claim, please?

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Middle Talon: 53,07% Win, 6% Pickrate Diana (Mid): 49.7% Win, 4.42% Pickrate Diana (Jungle): 49.56% Win, 3.3% Pickrate

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/middle/bronze/by-winrate Talon: 52.3% Win, 6,5% Pickrate Diana (Mid): 51.6% Win, 4.0% % Pickrate Diana (Jungle): 51.4% Win, 2.3% Pickrate

Diana has not a higher Win nor Pickrate than Talon on neither of both sites, your claim is simply wrong and Diana is obviously not overpowered according to winrates. And we all know, you love these winrates as prove, but in this case, you don't even have that going for you. Case closed ^_^

4.42+3.3=7.72 Diana, Talon 6% according to your statistics.

Also your second statistics only bronze elo :)

mogonkFeb 28, 20163 votes

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4.42+3.3=7.72 Diana, Talon 6% according to your statistics.

Also your second statistics only bronze elo :)

HAHAHA he thinks you add the numbers from the roles together

holy shit what an idiot

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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HAHAHA he thinks you add the numbers from the roles together

holy shit what an idiot

Belly dancer.Hahahahahaha.

Your mathematic is very bad.

Where 45% Liar kid?

AaravosFeb 28, 20162 votes

idk what are you talking about, your website must be very bad

http://champion.gg/champion/Diana http://champion.gg/champion/Talon http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/talon/middle http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/diana/middle http://www.lolking.net/champions/diana?region=na&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics http://www.lolking.net/champions/talon?region=na&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Win rate doesn't mean everything and Diana isn't underpowered, but lot weaker than Talon atm and don't deserve nerfs. The nerfs to talon are justified.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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idk what are you talking about, your website must be very bad

http://champion.gg/champion/Diana http://champion.gg/champion/Talon http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/talon/middle http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/diana/middle http://www.lolking.net/champions/diana?region=na&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics http://www.lolking.net/champions/talon?region=na&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Win rate doesn't mean everything and Diana isn't underpowered, but lot weaker than Talon atm and don't deserve nerfs. The nerfs to talon are justified.

The nerds to talon are justified but Diana is have broken kit?

0 counterplay for carries.

AaravosFeb 28, 20162 votes

Dodge q item 3156 item 3140 (removes q debuff) item 3072 cc, shield, utility spells from your teammates summoner 7 . Diana is very binary, if you survive her burst and don't give her reset in a teamfight she will be an unmobile squishy juggernaut. Carries can't 1v1 her but they shoulndn't be able to. This is a teamgame where you need to work with your teammates, Diana has a lots of counterplay if you paly as a team and don't try to 1v1 her as Caitlyn (just an example). Diana probably could handle a rework because she is binary, but not because she is broken.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 28, 20161 votes

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Dodge q (removes q debuff) cc, shield, utility spells from your teammates . Diana is very binary, if you survive her burst and don't give her reset in a teamfight she will be an unmobile squishy juggernaut. Carries can't 1v1 her but they shoulndn't be able to. This is a teamgame where you need to work with your teammates, Diana has a lots of counterplay if you paly as a team and don't try to 1v1 her as (just an example). Diana probably could handle a rework because she is binary, but not because she is broken.

Dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge

Classic skillshot mains words.

Also qss and other items aren't enough.