Why are we against limiting armor pen?

Jefftiffy··6 votes·791 views

But it really needs to be stopped. Lethality was supposed to fix the problems, it has not. It has just added yet another lever to balance and makes it inherently toxic that your opponent gets stats for your level.

When we first had lethality it was overpowered and champs abused it, so it got nerfed. It got buffed again because it became useless. How long are we going to continue this endless cycle. Seriously cap all champs at up to 2 armor pen items and if they build more use the highest values.

Seriously down vote me all you want, but armor pen was always a problem. Lethality is the same exact problem except worse. It has higher values, but the downside is that it worse until later in the game which actually makes it all around better when flat armor pen was supposed to lose to tanks. And you can just build a random Last Whisper item just in case they stack armor.

The fact that your opponent gets better stats for you doing well is kind of a bad lever to add to the game for balance. It really isn't fair on Garen so why is it fair on the people who put out higher DPS and are safer.

This damage creep needs to be stopped and limiting armor pen is one way to fix it.

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TequilaZombie3 votes

We don't limit AD. We don't limit AP. We don't limit Health. We don't limit Armor or MR. We don't limit ANY STAT. Why should Lethality be any different?

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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We don't limit AD. We don't limit AP. We don't limit Health. We don't limit Armor or MR. We don't limit ANY STAT. Why should Lethality be any different?

Well, we do limit magic pen. As in there being very few things giving it.

TequilaZombie2 votes

You can always stack Sorc Shoes

Kappa

SwiftKitten883 votes

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We don't limit AD. We don't limit AP. We don't limit Health. We don't limit Armor or MR. We don't limit ANY STAT. Why should Lethality be any different?

we don't limit armor and MR? .... someone hasn't heard of diminishing returns have they.... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

TequilaZombie1 votes

Those stats don't have diminishing returns. Well' they kinda have when you consider their %dmg reduction' but they still increase your effective Health by 1% for every 1 point. It's just that at certain point you're better off buying hp than resists. Just like it happens to AS/AD/CRIT.

MissingKayo2 votes

The only ones defending it are the fucking dumbasses abusing it.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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The only ones defending it are the fucking dumbasses abusing it.

Nah I've been abusing it and I'm still happy that they're gonna nerf it.

On the other hand, I've been oneshotting perfectly fine with item 3071 item 3812 , so meh.

MissingKayo2 votes

Which is why I said only the dumbasses that abuse it do, not everyone. I love Lethality on Jhin (Ghostblade) and AD assassins. It's still stupid on ranged.

The 14th Angel1 votes

you have LDR and MR those 2 grant 45% pen.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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you have LDR and MR those 2 grant 45% pen.

But they don't stack. If you had to choose between 2 you couldn't build something like item 3142 item 3036 item 3071 and make everyone you fight have essentially 0 armor.

The 14th Angel1 votes

its 45% like holy fuck dude, you just wanna break the game? look, im a AP user only. 45% of pen is more than enough. stacking is not cool. that would be beyond broke

Jefftiffy1 votes

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its 45% like holy fuck dude, you just wanna break the game? look, im a AP user only. 45% of pen is more than enough. stacking is not cool. that would be beyond broke

Who gave you that idea. Was that the guy saying that both give 45%. He never said that they stacked. And I meant that after you build 2 items it would take the best 2. Unique passives would still prevent overlap as is there point. Maybe both of your took it the wrong way.

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