Because oddly none of the enchanters (
) have a spell shield or cleanse in their kit and we need more options to counter the cancerous and extremely popular hook champions other than picking 
(who is always banned by hook mains and she isn't even an enchanter nor real support).
Who Fed Ru10 voteshook champs should counter enchanters, not the other way around.
The thigh guy3 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7KsF95fE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-22T00:06:48.784+0000)
hook champs should counter enchanters, not the other way around.
And poke champions should counter hook champions. But you know. 
Who Fed Ru1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7KsF95fE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-22T05:01:43.909+0000)
And poke champions should counter hook champions. But you know.
Nah, giving a hook assassin support a noob proof disengage from any situation he isn't cc locked in + a heal during his invisibility is perfectly fine /s
iDarkWind1 votesAs if you can really compare Pyke's hook to Blitzcrank's or Thresh's.
The thigh guy2 votesAs if you can really compare Pyke's hook to Blitzcrank's or Thresh's.
It’s a hook that pulls you towards him. That’s like, the definition of a hook champion.
iDarkWind1 votesIt's a hook with channel time that also makes a big sound when is being channeled while having the same delay of any other hook's in terms of animation. Much harder to land than Thresh's or Blitz's while not being as deadly as Blitzcrank's. You guys generalize everything.
NaughtyWord1 votesAs if you can really compare Pyke's hook to Blitzcrank's or Thresh's.
You're right, Pyke's is better.
Blitzcrank's doesn't CC automatically (well not beyond the animation anyway) and thresh's won't actually move you if Thresh himself doesn't move.
https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Thresh https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Blitzcrank
iDarkWind1 votesIt's a channeled hook that you have to wait until is fully charged to increase the range while having the same animation delay of any other hook. I don't know how how you think it's better than Thresh's or Blitz's.
hrooza dota 1 voteslol no pyke hook is the slowest of the 3 and that alone make it pretty garbage in comparison to the other 2
blitz hook drag you next to him which is the longest draging ( draging someone a mile over wall in baron is something pyke can never do unless the enemy hug the wall) thresh one stuns for long and im sure it drag you toward him whatever if he moved or not
Daddy Ants2 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7KsF95fE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-22T00:06:48.784+0000)
hook champs should counter enchanters, not the other way around.
Yes but they should not auto win vs enchanters.
There should be ways for the enchanters to win the matchup.
Who Fed Ru1 votesYes but they should not auto win vs enchanters.
There should be ways for the enchanters to win the matchup.
they don't, you can always dodge the hooks and trade them after missing.
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7KsF95fE,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-22T13:25:13.721+0000)
they don't, you can always dodge the hooks and trade them after missing.
I didn't imply they do.
Right now, Enchanters can beat Engage Supports and vice versa.
Minimac20002 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7KsF95fE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-22T00:06:48.784+0000)
hook champs should counter enchanters, not the other way around.
Idk we have mages that counter assassins 
and late game champions that counter early game champions 
An enchanter that counters hook champs seems fine to me
Hawthorn Tree6 votes...can we not have anymore Enchanters? Playing against them is like watching paint dry on a wall...I'd rather be hooked by Thresh and lose the game than to be zoned by . Every time I play against Enchanters, unless the game is highly one-sided and we absolutely dominate their vision, it ends up turning into a game of chicken because they know I have my CDs and I know they have their CDs and neither of us wants to be the idiot that engages and ints.
Infernape5 votesYou see how Tahm Kench has a sub 45% win rate and gets nerfed repeatedly because of his W in competitive? That is what giving a champ a free cleanse/QSS for their team will do to them.
Greenette2 votesGive the new enchanter Taric's old ult but better.
Make her like a Sona/Taric hybrid. Whatever spell she last used will empower her ult in different ways.
Q - offensive spell, if this was the last spell cast before ulting she grants adaptive force
W - utility spell, if this was the last spell cast before ulting she grants either tenacity or move speed
E - defensive spell, if this was the last spell cast before ulting she grants either a shield that decays over time or damage reduction that decays over time
She has to channel the ult similar to Janna. Rank of spell determines how powerful each effect is. Maybe link the scaling to one of her other stats, such as each % of cdr increases the effect of her ult aura by x%
I didn't bother filling in her basic abilities but this thought for her ult just occured to me. In my experience, enchanters scale really hard so why not add another to the list.
LTK KoRo2 votescan the new enchanter have 0 shields of any kind and actually require anything more than clicking e on the most fed carry in the team? thanks
Minimac20001 votes[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7KsF95fE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-04-22T06:54:13.777+0000)
can the new enchanter have 0 shields of any kind and actually require anything more than clicking e on the most fed carry in the team? thanks
Uhhhh, you missed the part where they are an enchanter. An enchanter without a shield is not an enchanter just another mage support
LTK KoRo1 votesoh, sounds like a good reason why there are no more enchanters after nami. I guess this class design is too flawed :^)
no but srsly, another enchanter is unneeded, current enchanters are basically the same and this class deserves a big fat rework
Daddy Ants1 votesUhhhh, you missed the part where they are an enchanter. An enchanter without a shield is not an enchanter just another mage support
Not Necessarily.
Enchanters aren't just limited to shielding.
Enchanters empower their allies or keep their allies healthy.
Nami for example doesn't have shielding in her kit, only way she gets to shield is with Summon Aery or Guardian.
Soraka doesn't have innate shielding in her kit either.
Enchanters provide healing, shielding and helpful steroids to their allies.
Lulu provides attack and movement speed steroids. Lulu also provides on-hit damage through Pix!
Janna provides an attack damage steroid through her shield. Janna also provides a movement speed aura to nearby allies from the passive effect of her W.
Nami provides an on hit damage steroid for the next 3 auto attacks that slows the target. Nami also provides a movement speed steroid whenever one of her spells hits an ally.
ADC Yuumi1 votesActually, I think the other way around might be nice. A enchanter who shields you from physical damage, and enemy basic attacks will reflect the damage and on-hit back to them but consume the shield. Probably to a damage cap though, we can't have Caitlyn / Draven OHKO themselves.
Think a temporary Rammus passive / Annie E.
Rıots Bad Client1 voteswhat about a champion that drops down an area(much like Kindred) where the area grants everyone Crowd-control Immunity. (including Enemies)
So it will be an ultimate ability 3/3.5/4 second duration Bonus movment speed granted to allies. 25%-50%(maybe) meaning they cant be Knocked up, and or Stunned by any kind.(however the damage is applied normally like malzahar suppression)
(For another effect, He/She can use this ability on them self/Ally to cleanse them from any movement impairing effect.
And make this support Hold NO CrowdControl.
Rıots Bad Client1 votesTo make a Champion out of this. (please take Numbers with a grain of salt, as i'm just picking random numbers) (and I know its not... something people wanna read, but I find it fun to make random champions)
so this champion is to dispel buffs from enemies. Enhance an ally with picking effects to share.
Is Melee
passive:
Q: Next 3 Autos become range autos(range:550) If ( champion) lands 3 autos land on the same target This champion is granted 25% Max HP regeneration over 10Seconds The autos deals 4/5/6/7/8% of the targets current Health (effect lasts 8seconds)
(Sharing this effect Doesn't share any bonus range, just the auto on hit effect. Condition isn't shared (where if they land 3 they'll get a heal, as this is Condition to get a buff, and not a buff in itself, However once the heal is achieved, he can grant that)
W: Removes all Defects from the ally and places upon them selfs with 120%/105%/90%/75%/60%. Of the effects duration) Removes All Buffs from yourself and grants them to the selected ally with 100%/105%/110%/115%/120%of the duration remaining
(Doesn't Grant/Remove Any effects that Both share(Like a Heal Debuff). Doesn't remove and area of effect debuffs (like Soraka Silence)
E: Charges: 1/1/2/2/3
after 0.75 using the ability IN a area around Him/Her targets 2 enemy units applies Grievous wounds and removes 25% of the duration of Any buff they have. Removes 50% of any shield in the radius of the effect and granting him the shield lasting 2 seconds. (Doesn't include Banshies Veil braum shield) But I'll say it includes spells Shield, and 
Physical shield)
Dealing magic damage For each Buff that was sapped.
(This doesnt affect Minions unless they had a buff going on)
Stars Shaper1 votesAdding existent mechanics only makes them stackable and ultimately unbearable, especially for characters that can't chain cc nor just wait for the single spellshield to go off in order to blast ppl out of existence.
l MrD l1 votesJust to say tahm kench is massively baalnced around pro play due to his W ... Simply because it acts as a cleanse
BLIGHTBRINGER1 votesI would love the idea but most players would find it unfair, considering how strong the effect is... (Yet people forget that GP and Rengar have it and say nothing about that)
The reason as to why I would love the idea is that so I can actually save my ADC from the following...
(you're never going to move or do anything)
(1 button free kill)
(Chain Range equal to the entire map)
(ADC Death Sentence)
hrooza dota 1 votesfrankly a cleanse wont counter all the hook champions.
blitz will still hook the enemy adc away from the support and miss position the enemy wont be countered by a simple cleanse, the one will suffer the most of it are heavy engage champs and even some enchantress engaging tools like sona (cleanse the ulti and boom, free disengage)